So Geneva roots finally made a splash in Europe?
I’m pleased with the trees that I grafted on G202 7 years ago.
G202 has been a bit of a pain for me but they have done well in snap frosts compared to others.
They do tend to grow upright and put on a decent amount of water sprouts
Well I’m planting them in India
I’ll be re-grafting a couple for the 2nd time…which logically indicates there is a little difficulty with some of the grafts taking and growing. Means around 7 out of 10 grafts have taken over 3 year period…and that’s a bit low compared to other rootstocks that are closer to 9 out of 10.
Or, maybe 25 or so just isn’t a big enough sample…who knows.
It makes me feel better as I have had awful success rates grafting them but have also grafted when was convenient for me and not during the best time to graft so I don’t think my experience counts.
@dmehta410 Dmehta you seem to be in the himalayas and they might do really well for you as mine have been decently drought tolerant and handled rock and clay soil
Well I’m hoping for the best… Today I’m going to plant these root stocks
from the dutch text on the label. These seem to come from the netherlands.
Could you tell me where you bought them from?
if been trying to find these in EU for a while. but no one seems to sell them.
Hi Oscar.
G202 is available in UK (obviously no longer EU, grrrr, don’t get me started on that one! ) here https://gb-online.co.uk/neweshop/index.php?id_product=1010&rewrite=g202-apple-rootstock-bare-rooted&controller=product
I’m sure they are still able to post to EU but not sure what taxes etc would now be incurred. Grrrrrr.
Dave
Thanks for the info dave 
I can deal with 20% extra tax, or the inport duty’s. However i suspect we will now need a phytosanitary certificate. And those costs 100s of euro’s im afraid.
They will probably be soon coming to you guys via a united ireland
Isn’t orange pippin shipped out of uk and ireland?
Not to EU now…
Wow! So how long are you guys going to be cut off from the uk royal horticultural society stuff? That is going to be another immense black market for ireland to just get you guys some flowers huh? That is a pretty big mess up makes me feel a little bit better with everything we have going on here.
Well, I wrote a lengthy paper with 77 footnotes in 1973 as to why the UK joining the EU was a mistake…
so after 48 years, I was proven right! (I do still have that paper somewhere).
I know this may seem crazy but you can leave an organization respectfully and not wipe feces on the walls or break priceless artifacts on your way out.
It will be a good challenge to the very crusty brittish system and will be a healing thing for ireland eventually i hope. Honestly britian will loosen up standards on america minus our chicken and more usa stuff will get to britian and then leak into ireland and then to the EU. They should make phytosanitary certificates cheaper and easier so people stop bypassing the system and introducing new diseases
even though as a hobbyist. I would love easier accses to oversea’s plants.
The phytosanitary certificates are there for a reason and have that price tag for a reason.
And people should never bypass the system.
a lot if not most of the pests and diseases we’r dealing with have been imported.
Imagine how nice it would be to not have to deal with even 1 or 2 diseases/pests.
Now imagine haveing to deal with even more 
although i will leave the politics alone.
I am afraid of what diseases will get introduced into the EU post brexit. That is if UK goes free plant trade with US and we aren’t extreemly diligent at the EU border.
like black knot. It is not even somthing we’r considering on our prunus tree’s.
I would hate to have to deal with that yearly. Or change varieties because of it.
I would actually be for more stringent phytosanitary measures, and use the money from extra/higher fines to fund more university variety scion wood orchards. (indoors pest/virus free and tested like they have for citrus in some parts of the US)
This Dutch nursery seems to carry all the rootstocks that you might need
Hey I’d love y’all to keep your herpes to yourselves and the USA to keep our form of brain worms (and herpes) to ourselves. Maybe one day clear it up? Who knows.
Well I’m talking about the idea of moving past using restrictions on things since telling people not to do things does not actually stop them from happening and in fact stops your ability to regulate and control.
In the USA we can order scions from Corvallis and the ars grin still luckily and while we need to fight for it and support them and if used correctly it ideally reduces disease transfer and keeps varieties even if they are not commercially viable available.
What I wish we could do since it would be really hard is to set up some sort of international organizations in each participating countries that could maybe do tissue cultures since that is a way you can bypass viruses and pests and can be done reasonably inexpensively and on a large scale.
I think providing an alternative path for sharing varieties would be worthwhile for all of our agricultural programs to fund over fighting imported pest and diseases. You could put a price tag on scions and varieties and the rest of the expense could be carried by each countries agricultural programs since it would most likely save money compared to importing pests and encouraging more black markets
I agree with you RichardRoundTree
I think such programs should idealy be hosted by univirsity’s.
If each country had their uni keep a fruit variety/scion “bank” that where able to responsible swap varieties between uni’s (and thus countries)
We could avoid importing a lot of nasty’s
Until such a thing exsist however. It is inportant for us hobbyists to:
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not put our selfish needs for that one variety from oversea’s, above the greater good of not having a nasty disease.
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