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Same way to get to scroll bar on iPhone too. And yes when I figured that out it was fantastic!

I still don’t know how to link a thread to another thread. I can copy and paste external links but have problems linking to a previous post. I think I did it once and don’t know how it happened.

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If you are browsing on a computer under where it says (example 11/14 ) indicating which post you are reading it will say something like 8m ago. That indicates how long since the last post in the thread. If you click on that it will take you to the last post in the thread.

Leroy,

Just wanted to follow up about your experience of not being able to upload a pic when you were a brand new user.

I tested that a few minutes ago and the buttons, including upload button, came up for a new account. The buttons didn’t show up until I picked the category for the new topic, but they did show up after a category was selected. Is it possible you didn’t select a category at first, which would explain why you didn’t see the buttons?

It’s been a while so can’t say for sure. It’s all working now.

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I’d like to make a suggestion for something I’d like to see, and if others feel the same they can show it by “liking” this post.

I wonder if there is any way that we could link a person’s introduction post from the “introduce yourself” thread to their profile page. Since a lot of people don’t put where they live or what zone they are in on their profile, or even put a paragraph about themselves, it would be so nice if, when you click on a person’s profile to find out more about them we could see their introduction post. If they want privacy and don’t want people to know where they live, their zone, fruits they grow, etc, then they can simply not do an “introduce yourself” post. But a lot of people do put all kinds of great information in their introduction post - indicating they don’t mind people knowing those things- but then they forget to put it in their profile. There might be other ways to do this…perhaps instead of giving the users a blank section to describe themselves in their profile (and them not knowing what to put) perhaps you could put questionnaire to be sure we get the information they are willing to provide (where they live, what they grow, zone, etc). But people do so good in their introduction posts on the introduction threads that might be the easiest way to just link to it. I often find myself trying to find a new persons intro thread to learn more about them after they post elsewhere, but its very hard to go find their introduction post.

Last but not least, I wish we could improve the map function so that new users are actually prompted to enter their location (of course they can opt out if they wish). I say that because as it is, most new users don’t even know the map exists, and those that do can rarely figure out how to enter their location so they usually end up not doing it or getting @speedster1 to do it, and while he is kind enough to do so, many people don’t know to even ask. In spite of these issues, everyone loves looking at the map to see who is close to them, where someone is, etc, But its just not user friendly.

Just my thoughts…I love the site as it is, of course!

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Kevin,

Those are good suggestions. You (and other members) may not be aware there are limitations on the forum program. It’s a program which is not proprietary to anyone. The forum uses the Discourse program as unmodified. Since it’s an open source program, I believe it can be modified to allow more features. @scottfsmith would be the one to comment on the difficulty of doing that.

As it stands, I don’t believe there is any feature that would allow linking of a member’s intro to their profile page. I will say that you can easily view if a member posted an intro post on the intro page.

Just click on their avatar, and click it again when it comes up to get to their personal page. Then click on the search function (which will search all the posts from that member). Type in “introducing” in the search box. If the member has posted on the “Introducing myself to Scott’s forum”, the search will pull up posts or topics with the word “introducing” in them. You can then click on the post to see it.

For example, when I try that with thecityman it pulls this post as the first search :wink:

I know this is a bit more work than the link to the profile page you mention, but just wanted to offer you something until something else can possibly be figured out.

RE: new users prompted to use map function. Again Scott can clarify if he has different thoughts, but one thing we can do is include a reminder in the FAQs. Something like “Is there a map available of Growing Fruit members’ orchards?” Then in the explanation we could offer a reminder and link in case new members want to be included on the map.

Added the link to my introduction thread to my profile and after spending way too much time trying to figure out how to add myself to the map, I wound up sending @speedster a message.

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Thanks for that. I did know its an open source program, though as a non-programmer I have no idea how hard is to make any changes, including the ones I mentioned. I actually have tried searching a persons username with the word “Introducing” ! So great minds think alike. haha. But it hasn’t worked that well for me…it often shows other responses or posts that the person has made on that introduction thread, but you sometimes have to read a TON of posts and responses before you get to the persons own original entry on the introduction thread telling about themselves. I just tried the method you described using your avatar, then your page, then searching “introducing” and I got several other comments you made on the thread and stopped looking before I found your actual, personal entry about yourself (if you made one). I may have done it wrong, but that goes to show that it isn’t a great way either…though I appreciate that you were just trying to offer a possible solution if a better one can’t be found.

If it isn’t possible to put a link in each person’s profile page to their “introducing” post, then maybe there is a better way…in the end I hope you and scott understand what I’m really trying to get at is I just wish there was a way that (for those who want to share it) we could more easily see each user’s background story-location, zone, trees, etc. I know they could retell their story in their profile paragraph, but most people don’t do that. That why I said if you can’t like to their introduction post then maybe you could just give better instructions to new users on what to tell about themselves (if they want) and maybe a question with answer space would do it? IE :where do you live, what zone is that, how many trees do you have, what kind, how long have you grown fruit, what was the origin of your interest and so on. One suggestion is that when someone enters their personal story on the “introduction thread” that it asks them “can we put this entry on your profile page” and if they said yes, just have it copy onto their profile. But again, I don’t know how hard/impossible that would be

@lhreeves Thank you very much for sharing that- it just exactly what I was saying about the map being so non userfriendly. It’s great that @speedster1 is willing to put people on there when they can’t figure it out themselves (and you should know that is almost everyone) but surely there is a more userfriendly way. Also, most new people don’t even know there is a map, let alone how to get on it or who to ask for help. Maybe Scott or others can find a way to improve both of these related issues.

I didn’t know there was a map until this post. I did a search for map after and found the threads that talk about it and eventually got to the one that had the link to the map. Pretty sure only the map owner can add people to the map. I looked in all the menus and right clicked on everything trying to find hidden menus, but never found anything that would allow me to add myself to the map.
My introduction thread was created prior to me realizing there was a topic for it so mine isn’t where it belongs. Copying and pasting the link to my profile should make it easy to find now though.

just more evidence of what I’m saying. It did use to be possible to add yourself, but by doing so it was also very easy to screw up the whole map and/or other people’s location. People were always writing Dave and saying “I’m sorry, I messed up the map” and he’d have to fix it. So its likely he just made it so he is the only one who can edit it now. Either way, it just goes to show there isn’t a good map system right now!

I like what you did with your introduction very much!!! You just accomplished 90% of what I was asking them to do!!! The only problem I have with what you did is that most people won’t know to do that. If they could automatically do what you just did, or at least ask the person if he/she was ok with that and then doing it, then my suggestion is solved! Nicely done. Its just that most new members that don’t read this current thread won’t know to do what you just did. If they do or if the mods can tell them to or do it for them, we are done! Nice idea. Thanks.

Kevin is right. Initially the map was open to public editing and people were able to add themselves. That created some serious issues in that it was constantly getting compromised. People were getting moved around accidentally and deleted. I actually had to restore it from backups a few times. That is why I had to lock it down. Since then I’ve added everyone manually.

Initially, when I saw a new username I didn’t recognize i would often click on the users profile. If it listed a location I would enter it on the map. But it was spotty and hit or miss. I’ve also looked through the introduction thread and added a few people that way. But I don’t check it religiously enough to make a dent on the new members.

The current way is not ideal that’s for sure. I’m not a programmer so I don’t have an answer. Would be nice if discourse just had an option to enter a lat long coordinate or street address that would auto populate a forum provided map.

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Kevin,

I don’t have a personal entry on the intro page. That’s why you couldn’t find it. I figure I’ve posted so much on the fruit forum, and told so many personal stories, people don’t want to hear any more about me :smile::face_with_hand_over_mouth: I do have a descriptive personal page which includes my location and zone. And of course I’m on Dave’s map.

Your other questions/suggestions are more good ones, but beyond my skill set. I’ll defer to Scott.

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No matter how elegant as a solution, the second, hidden scroll bar is unintuitive, but I’m more put off by its color. In my PC browser there’s no contrast at all against the background that I can see.

Uploading images can fail for obscure reasons, I think, like unrecognized or indecipherable file types, incomplete and balky transfers, and oversize pictures. These situations need to be diagnosed in real time for the user’s benefit, and I don’t recall that they are.

Finally, it’s nice to have the backward link from a reply to a previous post, but it’d be really nice to have a forward link from the previous post back to the reply, too. Nobody, it seems, has developed a completely satisfactory way to portray threaded conversations in sequential media, even in two-dimensional media. It must actually require three or more. :smile:

Don’t look for any big changes to the Discourse we run unfortunately. Based on past experience with custom mods they end up breaking when there is a new version and then I have to spend a lot of time fixing the now-broken mod. There are plugin extensions available but they also suffer the same problem, future extensions break plugins. So, we only run the vanilla Discourse here. We can change various options in the configuration but any changes not in the standard configuration is not easy.

@CRhode if you are not seeing the colors property you might want to try one of the other themes. Click on your icon in the upper right of your screen, then on the gear wheel, then on “Interface” on the left side menu, then pick a new Theme in the drop-down and hit Save. Browse a few things and see if you like it; if not come back and try another! We can easily edit the colors of the themes so if there is a bad color in there let us know and we can change it.

@Olpea something on how to change the theme could be a good topic for our FAQ!

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Yes, I’ve had exactly the same reservations about trying to support an eCommerce Web page based on Zen Cart.

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Ah, I see it now. The interior scroll bar isn’t a bar at all; it’s a thin, vertical, pale blue line, which is perfectly invisible against the pale green of the default background. The GFDark theme shows it off much better.

That blue scrollbar color is not configurable so the standard theme can’t be improved there without changing the main background color :frowning:

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I have been wondering what’s the best way to post a video. I made a YouTube channel one time and inserted a link but what are the other options?

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I’m thinking the scrollbar uses the “highlight” color. The color themes published on the Discourse.com discussion group seem to have the same color for both. I’ll look into this.

Edit: I’ve reached a dead end, not having a live Discourse installation to play with. They have a command-line interface (CLI) for developing color themes, but I can’t run that because it requires a newer Ruby than is available in my current Linux distribution. There’s nothing recent in the Discourse discussion group about how the timeline is colored. Giving up.

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For what it is worth I am happy with the forum as it exist.

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