Hi Everyone.
I grew up in Texas and we had wild muscadine, and some were pretty tasty. We also had what some called fox grape which were really small, maybe 1/4" in diameter. I’ve always assumed they are related to each other. I’m living in Virginia now and I’m seeing vines with the tiny fruit and a lot of vines with no fruit. I haven’t seen any muscadine fruit yet. I’d like to grow some muscadines. Any guesses as to compatibility with my current rootstock?
What is your current rootstock?
Wild muscadine and wild fox grape
I had a look at the USDA Taxonomy Data in GRIN-Global.
“Muscadine grape” refers exclusively to plants of the species Vitis rotundifolia, some of which are native to Texas.
“Fox grape” can refer to either V. labrusca or V. rotundifolia, but only V. rotundifolia aka “southern fox grape” is native to Texas.
There are also several other grape species native to Texas, including
Vitis acerifolia
Vitis aestivalis
Vitis arizonica
Vitis cinerea
Vitis monticola
Vitis mustangensis
Vitis riparia
Vitis rupestris
Vitis treleasei
Vitis vulpina
I don’t know if these are graft compatible with Muscadine grape.
I guess I’ll find out through trial and failure.
As for common names I’d say who knows
But you being In Virginia I will say They are not graft compatible
If you were in Florida They have Vitis shuttleworthii it is a smaller grape
closer to Muscadine
When you say fox grape Concord is Labrusca It has white on the Under side (not going to work)
Vitis Riparia RIver bank grape , and a Number of small grapes will not work Either edit
Jack Keller
Vitis One Genus or two (edit)
https://web.archive.org/web/20120318043539/http://www.winemaking.jackkeller.net/vitis.asp
EDIt
https://web.archive.org/web/20120318003230/http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/natives.asp
(extra wine grapes recipe )
https://web.archive.org/web/20120203033728/http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/nativew1.asp
So all in all Since it is either a fox grape being (concord like) labrusca
or Sand grape or River Grape or summer grape V. aestivalis or something I’d rule out it being Shuttleworthii Muscadine (unless you got those too which I expect) , and rule out Mustang grape as well (vitis popenoei (is in the group and small but in Mexico )
As far as the grapes have no fruit Probably males
there should be a female near by I am no Expert on this Female grape distance stuff they can be Evasive
Note anyone in Florida I do not want to be Misleading
Vitis shuttleworthii does have white on underside
(and is not a Concord or Labrusca)
I am No Expert
Just pretty easy to rule out what is Graft compatible for Muscadine (grape of grapes )