What is going on in your vineyard this year? The only addition that I have is my new Oh Yes seedless. I like my bronze Oh My but I would like to get more taste like some of the darker varieties. I might get lucky and get a small sample of the black Oh Yes in 2027. My vines are still producing more fruit than I want to deal with so I’m trying to make the hard decision on more downsizing. Hope everyone has a great fruit growing season.
Oh Yes.
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To be honest, I get depressed thinking about all the work that I need to do with the vines, fruit trees, etc. One of my vines is pulling the end post out of the ground.
Got a new German Shepherd dog that is much more energetic than i am. Maybe she can get me going.
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My Paulk is starting to pull down my janky U post trellises. Not sure what i’ll do to address that yet. Maybe i’ll just let it take over the Asian pear next to it like it so desperately wants.
I’m overwintering Oh My in a pot and will he putting in the ground in the Spring. Will have Oh Yes in the Spring if our group order pans out. Meanwhile the old warhorse Darlene persists through her 5th Baltimore winter in a 7 gallon fabric pot. No room to plant her so i’ll just let the experiment keep rolling.
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You have a 5yo muscadine in a 7g pot? Can you explain more?? How is it trellised or pruned and does it fruit?
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It’s essentially in storage in a partially shaded spot. I don’t manage it at all nor protect it. I let it sprawl. It sets a handful of fruit in the pot but i’ve never gotten any ripened. I didn’t have space for it so I decided to throw in a pot as a hardiness experiment.
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I took this picture from the Gurney listing for Oh Yes. The clusters appear to be larger than Oh My at my location and the fruit also appears larger.
Half Oh My seedless and Half Alapaha blueberry. Oh My by itself makes a good tasting cobbler but it doesn’t have much eye appeal.
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Just by looking at the rim of the pie, it appears to me that you may have baked it a tad too long which would make it a little crusty. I’m sure that it is delicious though.
I’m still mixing the juice with some muscadine wine and freezing it into ice cubes. I really like the taste of it with yogurt. Just a little goes a long ways.
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Next couple of weeks are going to put a lot of stress on muscadine vines in 7A MD and VA especially. There’s potential for 4 consecutive days with lows under 10F. Hopefully only 2.
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I wasn’t worried a few days ago, but every time I look the forecast lows go lower. I’m now seeing a few nights going to 9 sprinkled into a week that is otherwise all teens. This is definitely more sustained cold than we’ve had in a while. I have Paulk and Hall and I’m not sure if either is considered more or less hardy. Hopefully the downward trend of the forecasts doesn’t continue.
At least we have been consistently pretty cold going into this so the vines should be pretty cold hardened. Is there a particular temp for most dines when damage is mostly likely to begin?
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Omg Monday low just dropped to 3! Forecast keeps changing…it certainly doesn’t look good, but we’ll see what actually happens.
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Ison’s says sub 0 will cause death to many vines. Sub 10 can be tolerated but not for long sustained stretches.
My Paulk survived consecutive sub 10 lows last year no problem. But that was only 2 maybe 3 days I think. My Lane was killed by a similar stretch I believe.
It looks like we’re at least facing 8 consecutive days of sub 15F temps with a few sub 10F sprinkled in. Pretty bad. I’d expect some weaker vines to die.
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highly recommend getting some incandescent christmas lights and wrapping them up if youre somewhere cold. its my strategy for my borderline plants and works ok. Tarp additionally helps a lot too
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Hmmm…. yeah it is a big change from the quick day or 2 or deep cold we’ve had in recent years. Glad I’m getting some vines in the group buy then I guess. Fingers crossed for all of us.
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not for sure, but it seems like the muscadines that we’re getting have some Vitis vinifera dna in it which gives it its seedlessness and also somehow imparts some cold hardiness.
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Unfortunately, F1 muscadine x vinifera hybrids generally prove to be less hardy than either parent in most cases. Backcrossing to one parent or the other can gradually improve hardiness to the standard of the reoccurring parent. I would not expect any of the muscadine X vinifera hybrids to be more hardy than muscadine. Equal cold hardiness to muscadine is likely best case scenario.
Anyone who is worried about trunk damage to their muscadine vines, and has just a few, can lay down the trunks on the ground and bury them for this cold spell. That will avoid any significant injury.
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they arent f1 but i hear you, it just theyve been tested down to 0 without damage (For some of them at least) This is for oh my
”The original vine of ‘JB06-43-6-22’, after exposure to minus 2 degrees Fahrenheit in January 2018, lost 4 feet out of 11 feet of cordon to cold injury, however the trunk was not injured and the vine vigor and production remains normal on the remaining cordon. ‘JB06-43-6-22’ may be less cold hardy than the standard muscadine cultivars, ‘Carlos’ (unpatented) and ‘Noble’ (unpatented), but more-cold hardy than ‘RazzMatazz’ (unpatented). In prior exposures of temperatures down to zero degrees Fahrenheit, ‘JB06-43-6-22’ has not shown any other than a slight degree of cold injury, such as the loss of a minimal number of one-year buds.”
Timberlake, NC Weather History | Weather Underground this was the weather in jnauary of 2018 in the town at question. so idk maybe not quite as bad but still hopeful for future years
as for oh yes,
”*Cold hardiness/winter hardiness/temperature tolerance.—*2 vines planted in 2016 suffered no apparent winter cold injury after a low temperature of −2° F. in January 2019.”
Timberlake, NC Weather History | Weather Underground for 2019
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I want to say Carlos, which is one of the most cold hardy muscadines, survived down to -15f in Arkansas, in 2021, without significant damage. Most muscadine hybrids and muscadines were killed to the ground in those conditions. Of course, cold hardiness can also be influenced by the weather before a cold event. If it’s been fairly cold for awhile, severe damage happens at lower temperature than it does if it was 70f followed by a strong temperature drop in a day or two.
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The two latest u Arkansas releases “mighty fine” and “Altus” are both supposedly around that hardy as well
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they’re getting really hard to find!!
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