Why the hesitation?
They do want $80 + not free shipping (probably) for it.
The patent for it, I think? Seems like the berries are larger than the previous seedless ones (Oh My/Oh Yes)?
It likely depends on the local disease pressure, so worth seeing first how it goes without. In my area, we have a lot of black rot, even the wild muscadines have it. If you wait till symptoms show up in the summer, then itās not possible to control it effectively for that season. Ison recommends to start spraying fungicide before bloom.
My muscandines havenāt suffered from any serious black rot (yet). This must be the only fungal disease for any fruit that Iāve managed to miss.
Mine were not affected the first year, but pretty bad in the second year. Maybe fruiting stresses them and they become more susceptible
I already have Oh My established and Iām not sure how much of an improvement the SuperHero would be over it.
Thanks for posting the patent info. Iām guessing that the SuperHero will be a little sweeter than my Oh My. If I understand correctly the fruit will be 13/16-15/16" which is only slightly bigger than the Oh My.
Same here. My fruit appears to be healthy without any sprays.
Is there any significant taste difference between Oh My and scuppernong (both bronze) to your taste buds?
I ask because I have not been able to discern any taste difference between scuppernong and Carlos (bronze).
Isnāt scuppernog just the name for bronze muscadine generally
I kept flipping back and forth between the descriptions and saw barely any difference.
Hard to imagine paying so much for something that sounds nearly identical.
Scuppernong is a named variety of muscadine. It was the first bronze muscadine found about 500 years ago in coastal South Carolina. It was spread so far and wide that many people did not realize it was a muscadine.
Some folks think in those terms. I know when I purchased my vine at a garden center that I call a Carlos the vine had a tag at the bottom that labeled it āCarlosā but at the top was a tag that labeled it āScuppernongā. The lady at the counter said the label āCarlosā was correct.
I suspect its because all bronze varieties has the same flavor. Its confusing and incorrect to call all bronze varieties āscuppernongā. Carlos and SuperHero are perfect-flowered while Scuppernong is female. It just adds to confusion to call all bronze colored muscadine āscuppnongā.
Maybe its because somebody said the all Scuppernongs are muscadines but not all muscadines are Scuppernongs, True but still confusing. ![]()
Which domesticated varieties do you grow? May I ask what latitude youāre on? Iām trying to determine whether muscadines will survive here, or whether theyāll be killed by our occasional single digit weather.
Have you had any winter die-back on your vines? Do you get single digit nights in the winter?
@Durthil.. I have only been growing named variety muscadines for 3 or 4 years now. No winter die back at all so far.
My lowest temps the past 10 years were in the 2F-3F range. I think that was 2022 and 2023.
I have had a concord grape and trellised wild muscadine for near 20 years.. no winter die back on them at all.
In 2020⦠We had a very late hard frost April 15⦠26F⦠it took all the new green growth off my concord including blossoms and small fruit clustersā¦. It grew back about a month later but did not bloom again.
TNHunter
Were your named muscadines in the ground during those low temps? Or did you plant them the following season? May I ask which varieties of named muscadines you have? Do you have any experience with Paulk, or Supreme?
Interesting. Do your concords consistently produce? No black rot, or other disease issues? I had some concord vines years ago, but only ever harvested one crop from it.
@Durthil ..
My Oh My and Isons muscadines.. Sept 2023.
They were started that spring of 2023 which I am pretty sure was just after my last single digit temps.
I have added Oh Yes and Razzmatazz this spring.
I prefer the seedless varieties.
@Fusion_power has been growing them much longer than me and he is just a little south of me. When I got 2F and 3F⦠best I remember he got 0F.
He should be able to tell you if 0F resulted in any muscadine vine die back.
TNHunter
My understanding is the the scuppernong is a parent of all bronze varieties. A mutation that got rid of the red pigment anthocyanin. This makes the vines more susceptible to fungal disease, so it will generally not be selected for in the wild. The scuppernong survived anyways on Roanoke Island under the optimal maritime conditions.
My varieties are Cowart, Scuppernong, Carlos and a couple of wild vines. All are mature vines except for the wild ones which are in their fourth year and are just now producing. Mostly just use them for the juice and jelly. A few I eat out of hand but not much.
Iām on the boundary between 7b and 8a, They have survived temps as low as -3F. Have always mulched the vines with wood chips/oak leaves.

