Muscadines 2026

General Fruit Growing
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If you want consistent production over the long term, they should be replaced every 7 to 10 years.

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reptile and fish people pay big money for grapevine wood lol. was just at a reptile expo and people were selling small pieces of it for like 15 bucks and big ones for 30-50. since we’re discussing pruning lol

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If you google “How many feet of cordon wood should each muscadine vine have?” you will get back “20 feet of total cordon (fruiting wood)”.

But this is for a single wire trellis. I’m using a double wire trellis so I double it and get double the amount of muscadines!

Or so I hope. :grin:

Actually I think the biggest advantage is that I get better sunshine on my vine with the double wire.

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In the article that I have linked the author suggest to renew the arms by “periodically “renew” the cordon by thinning out old bearers, and allowing new spurs to develop from shoots that grow from latent buds in the cordon” - (Figure 15). As I take it the bearer is the length of the spur from the arm as it has grown out.

Originally I had thought that to “renew” an arm (cordon) one had to simply select a vigorous cane near the trunk and have it as a new arm and then just cutting off the remaining much older arm (cordon).

What do you think?

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I’ve used both. But over time an older cordon tends to produce less. You have to be careful with replacing the old but it can be done by growing a new cane one year and then pruning the old the next year.

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Either way will work. I prefer to thin the spurs. I have 1 side cordon that doesn’t look healthy and after this season I might regrow it.

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Is it possible that you could completely do away with the cordon that doesn’t look healthy and regrow a cane from the opposite cordon to take the place of the unhealthy cordon?

I would think that the 7-10 years estimate on the issue of replacing a cordon is based on the number of years that that particular cordon has been fully productive rather then how many years that the vine has been in the ground.

So that when I say that my vine has been in the ground for 9 years is what I’m really saying is that my cordon is really in its 6th year. Is that not true?

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Got my order from Gurneys… planted Oh Yes and Razzmatazz today.

TNHunter

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Yes you could do that.

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My captive wild muscadines vines don’t appear to be doing good. Believe that the electrical cooperative folks sprayed brush killer on them last summer. I’ll keep trying though. :blush:

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I can’t use my Oh My coming in the group order. If anyone would like it, please get in touch with me.

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I am interested in yours if I can work out the pickup

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I’m interested

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I have a muscadine vine in maybe 4 hours of sun. It grows well, but a mediocre fruit crop compared to mine in full sun. But, the grapes dont sunscald and they seem to get ripe all at once. Our wild muscadines here are very shade tolerant

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I received one Oh Yes, and one Oh My. I normally buy from Isons. The gurney muscadines were pitiful little things compared to Isons - especially for the $

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16-20’ total is typically what a vine can handle and ripen. That’s the approximate average. You may have luck with doubling, but there’s a good chance something may suffer. All for trying new things too.

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@whitecliffs .. I got my Oh My from Gurneys a few years back and it was probably 2.5 to 3 ft tall.. not huge but not tiny.

It grew very well.. filled up 20 ft trellis in year 1.

The Razz and Oh Yes that I got from them this year were much smaller.. like 6-8 inch tall.

Hope they grow well.

TNHunter

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