My CHE comes out with new growth pretty early in the spring… about the same time my earliest mulberries do.
It occasionallly gets frosted and looses that early growth (it did this spring).. but it comes back out in a few weeks and grows well and still produces fruit.
TNHunter
Wow, there’s already a che / osange orange hybrid that has large fruits and no thorns? That would be a very interesting tree to get seeds from as the foundational F1 of a cross.
Oooh, California Dreaming has no thorns? I’ll definitely have to add that to my list to get. I really want to start breeding che in my yard for deliciousness, drought tolerance, and lack of thorns. 
Let’s do some swapping next year.
My California dreamin I grafted from scions from @TNHunter had flowers form and I was hoping to find out if the osage orange around would pollinate them without intervention, but some cow decided she should eat all the new growth off, luckily they pushed back half a dozen 3’ shoots already.
Do cuttings root easy? Or have you not tried since it can go crazy on its own roots?
I half heartedly tried rooting some cuttings this spring that failed, but the purported suckering on their own roots sounds unappealing to have growing around.
I would love them spreading
Have one going here. It looks rough and I still do not see roots at the bottom of the pot, but it hasn’t dried up yet. According to clarks post the un grafted ones take a lot longer to fruit though. I had one scion left over after grafting so I figured I’d give it a try.
I suspect we need to do more work with che. It’s possible we can make it much better.
That’s a good idea, but I question if they can get rid of that sticky resin that osage have. Osage also have thousands of seeds.
One side note from me about the “american chestnuts” he’s selling…
He said the seedlings are sourced from Buzz and Perfect Circle which are from John Wires trees. I inquired years ago with Buzz about the Wires seeds he offers and if they are pure C. Dentata and he said they are open pollinated with all of the other chestnuts on his property.
I love Buzz but just keep that in mind with seeds or seedlings of some of the things he offers.
Do they make good jam, syrup, pies? They look really interesting.
The park where I grew up had the osage orange trees. We would throw them at each other as kids lol. They are like softballs 
@clarkinks… let’s do some swapping.
Yes.. I will have a lot of nice CHE scionwood on my trade list again this year.
For anyone that ask.
Thanks
TNHunter
Osage orange about completely lose their sticky latex when they are fully yellow ripe, except in the center of the woody core. I think a bigger thing than the latex to me would be the fibrous strands all throughout the fruit, because if they had none of that, they probably wouldn’t have the status of never being eaten.
I don’t like thickets of any sort 
, because I spend a couple weeks every year cutting trees and I spend 95% of my time on dogwood and wild plum thickets.
I think either in back cross or F2 you could select out the unpalatable aspects of Osage. It’s a really fascinating crossing prospect. I would love to try.
I do as well. It takes months to trim out all these trees
Are California Dreaming and the Edible Landscaping seedless female the same cultivar? Or just same characteristic fruit?
It turns out I failed to kill my Osage Orange seedling, so I may have a rootstock for Che next Spring.
I have the EL one and when I asked them about the variety this was the response.
“Our Che does not have a varietal name. It is the original seedless che we began selling over 20 years ago.”
OK. I hope it’s not a duplicate of one I already have. Probably not. People that have the EL one say they take a super long time to fruit. Much longer than other varieties.
Let’s look back at what we know after the Che fruit has now been in the USA about 100 years. Zone 6-9
@KYnuttrees does sell Che fruit
CT seedless
I would never leave out Michael
Norris
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