My ongoing persimmon project is going strong for the moment.
Two (2) winters have gone by and the trees are growing up and have resisted -30 Celsius (-22 F).
But the 5 Meader and 5 Mohler have transformed into nine (9) trees but only one (1) casualty is miraculous…
The problem is: I don’t know what exact cultivars I have now because all original grafted Meader and Mohler are dead and new growth is difficult to ascertain.
Fortunately, only three (3) choices: Diospyros virginiana, Meader or Mohler. If someone could identify which trees is what cultivar it would help me to graft the Diospyros virginiana with hardy persimmon scions and leave the possible Meader and Mohler alone or maybe graft them too.
Hear some photos of trees and leaves.
À big thank you to everyone that could help!
P.S. Am I the only one thinking that leaves number 1 is anormaly huge for my 4a zone??? They look almost “tropical”…
Hi Marc,
I can only tell that pics #1,2,3,4,6,@7 all appear to be DV rootstocks without any other varieties grafted. Since I don’t have the other two grafted onto DV, I cannot help further but suggest that you go through your members in your nearby region at least north of Kentucky in a similar climate to locate a member who has your two hybrid varieties growing on DV. Only then would your pics be a fair comparison to help your ID the foliage variety in each pic.
For example my Prok grafted onto my Chocolate Kaki rootstock I’d only about half the size of the ones that Trev is posting from Tennessee. That’s my suggestion.
Dennis
Kent, wa
Thank you for replying to my message. Being French-speaking has sometimes its limits on an English-speaking forum… I understand that I was not sufficiently clear in my post. I’ll try to be better this second time around…
I planted 8 grafted persimmons 2 years ago. 4 Mohler and 4 Meader. All of them died after their first Winter but all the rootstocks sent shoots the next Spring and are still alive and kicking as of today.
At first I was pretty sure all newly leafing rootstocks were DV but when you look at the different photos provided in my original message not all leaves have the same pattern. Some are very large, other quite small, The texture of some leaves do not match the texture of others.
I’m thinking (I’m probably wrong…) that those leafing persimmons COULD. Be of different
Cultivars either DV, Mohler or Meader. This is why I was asking for people to look at those leaves and tell me what they think:
All DV?, Some Mohler? which photos? Some Meader? Which photos?
An identification would me to decide which “new” trees should be grafter in order not to have only DV producing too late in my zone.
Hi Marc,
Do you know how to study each one to locate the graft union? Here’s why I am asking: From the foliage shots you posted clearly many are not DV leafs!
So your statement that all died may not actually be what occurred!
If for example all 8 were on DV rootstocks and all grafts died, but the rootstocks lived and budded out as you stated then I should expect to see only pics of DV foliage!
What am I missing? It does not add up!
Do you know for a fact that all 8 were on DV rootstocks?
Perhaps that’s why I am totally confused, Maybe in your next posting you should state what the 8 rootstocks were!
You need to see if someone like @Dax can help you because I cannot since I do not have either of the varieties that you are inquiring about. Chances are Dax either has these varieties, or knows someone who can help you with the foliage shots.
Best wishes for your inquiry.
Dennis
Kent, wa
You’re so right and I’m so… confused… Call me Mitch McConnell. Hope I won’t need to be escorted away any time soon…
Yes obviously some shoots came back as DV on others came back as Mohler or Meader.
Thanks to the photo provided by @TNHunter it’s rather clear which trees came back as DV and which came as other cultivars. The leaves belonging to DV are quite small and indentured like photo 3a and 7a. For all others they are probably not DV.
confused… Call me Mitch McConnell. Hope I won’t need to be escorted away any time soon…