My persimmons are at the same stage of development as yours.
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Peaches are loaded with flower buds here. Persimmons varying from fully dormant to showing a bit of green. I put a foam sleeve over my Dar Sofiyivki, which is still dormant. Chuchupaka and Prok are some of the furthest along. The timing is unusual given that Amelanchiers arenāt blooming yet. Every year is different, but this is the oddest Ive seen
asian pear, forget the (obscure) variety
seedling white peach
Tlor tsiran black apricot
chuchupaka
Prok
JT-02
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were did you get the black apricot?
the Fedco scionwood swap years ago. It seems like a really interesting variety, however its never fruited for me. I think it may need a pollenizer?
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i must have missed that one. i have to see if they have it next winter.
I got it from Ralph, who lives near Belfast. Im pretty sure heās one of the guys who supplies a lot of the wood. I can send you a stick next year if you like
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31/32 right now, and the sun will be up momentarily. I see little to no frost out in the yard. Phew! Howād everyone else make out?
Well thankfully the wind is still strong enough to keep most of us fully mixed this morning. Itās possible that itās colder in the frost pockets tomorrow morning versus this morning. The exception seems to be in NY and VT where the surface high is overhead and much of that area was able to decouple overnight.
28Ā° so far for me on my hill with wind and a low dewpoint of 11Ā°. Iām not sure if that affects the plants much differently from my saturated and frosty 26Ā° two nights ago.
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You folks have made a very big deal about an April frost. When is the last day of frost on average where you are? These temps donāt seem at all abnormal to me.
Do you have experience that suggests your trees are more tender to freeze than what Iāve written here?
Correct. But the stone fruits are a bit further along here than they usually are. I know this temp is normal, so I donāt have tomatoes ready to go in ground just yet. My peach tree, on the other hand, just knows that itās received enough chilling hours and GDD to be in full bloom.
The last few years have been brutal on stone fruit in our area, so naturally weāre pretty vigilant
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Temp was at 28 F around 6 am. Iāll find out in a few days if it affects anything.
Wonder what the low temp was for @SMC_zone6 and @anon89542713 .
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I wish I took the time to always right down frost days and state of blooms but I do know that one year we got 24F when peaches and nects were in full bloom and there were no consequences. Of course, I canāt pin-point that temp. Maybe on the trees it was a degree or two higher, but I feel positive above 25 is safe, even for fruitletts. However, I cannot expect others to accept my anecdotes as gospel. However, the literature isnāt a whole lot better on the subject. The details of the subject donāt seem to be widely studied. There are probably several factors in play besides temp and state of buds or blossoms.
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I agree, definitely some nuance. The other benefit of fretting over temps: keeps us off the streets and out of trouble!
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This feels like a bit of hyperbole to me. People with fruit trees talking about weather events that might impact those fruit trees seems like normal conversation.
Iām sure you know this, but itās not about the last frost date alone. Itās also about how far along your trees are that year in relation to that last frost of the season. For a lot of us, our trees are further along this year than past years.
Your experience is absolutely valuable and appreciated. For apples, peaches, apricots, and other more typical fruits, youāre one of the most knowledgable growers on this forum. But I think some of the concern about the current weather event is for persimmons and other less typical fruits that you might have less experience with.
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I wouldnāt call it a typical late April cold shotā¦especially for northern New England and upstate NY. Itās widespread teens to low 20s in that region where it went calm and closer to my way itās mid to upper 20s with wind and low dewpoints. Thereās a bite out there.
Deeper into SNE itās less anomalous.
Last freeze (32Ā°) up here is normally early to mid May.
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We dipped to 19.8F here in the Southern Adirondacks. I donāt anticipate any damage as weāre still green tip even on the most advanced crabs, pears are green cluster, and cherry and peach are swollen bud.
22.6Ā°F seems lower than normal for these parts. Obvious damage to plums and peaches is uncertain. Apples, cherries, and pears seem to have done just fine.
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I grow some tender persimmons such as Great Wall and someoneās name I forget followed by candy, and one other that all lost branches last year from the deep dive to 7F in Feb last year. They were partially protected by a south wall that may have been what saved the lower branches.
My own native persimmons donāt seem to be at threat- they are only barely showing green.
That is too cold. I wonder why your trees are almost as far along as mine. Your apples maybe a littler further. I thought the lakes helped stabilize temps. When I even go a country further north the trees tend to be a week behind my own.
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