That’s very helpful and makes sense.
@snowflake — your pic of pristine… looks great. Cedars within 150 ft and that clean makes me question whether it is really susceptible to CAR.
I looked it up on some nursery websites… and Starks says this about Pristine…
An early summer apple! Tree bears crops of medium-to-large fruit with a sweet-tart taste and a crisp, breaking flesh. Fruit features canary-yellow skin with a slight pink blush. Excellent for cooking, sauce and eating fresh. Introduced circa 1995. Disease-resistant to scab, powdery mildew, fire blight and cedar-apple rust.
I was looking for more details specifically for the Bloom Time… and per Starks Mid Season Bloom.
I am better off with Mid to Late bloomers.
Raintree says this about Pristine…
The trees are very healthy, highly resistant to apple scab and cedar apple rust and somewhat resistant to powdery mildew and fireblight.
Their descriptions CAR wise, agree with your Photo.
Thanks
TNHunter
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i always wondered why ive never seen CAR like you guys have , up here. i guess our native white cedars dont carry it. here its the rots and fire blight that can be bad. red cedar is cold hardy here but i dont think ive ever seen them in Maine. love the looks and smell of the wood though.
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@TNHunter You can compare Pristine and other PRI apples on their site.
Pristine is one I hope to add. It sounds almost as good as Sundance.
Coop 40 sounds as good as Sundance and is among the latest bloom of their apples according to their petal fall chart.
https://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/pri/coop40-2.html
In my opinion according to their data, I am after Sundance(coop29), then coop40, then Pristine all 3 are must have yellow pri apples in my opinion!
But coop 40 has the latest bloom according to the chart so it may be #1 on my want list over sundance or pristine. I already got sundance from Bob Purvis. So coop 40 is next on my yellow apple want list!
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Triumph apple, released this year, theoretically is one for the no-spray list.
But, time needs to pass to be sure about rust and other potential problems.
Mine has CAR, but not a bad case.
(Winter red fLesh, Fameuse, Hampshire Red, Odysso, Niedzwetzkyana (about to bloom again), May Queen, Geneva Crab…these all in containers near the Triumph have clean foliage at this time).
I found Pristine to be about the worst apple for bugs, curculio in particular. Other than that it was bulletproof.
Re: CAR, these days I spray for it but for many years I did not. I almost never got CAR on the fruits themselves, and it helped keep the vigor of the trees down. So as long as it doesn’t get it super bad (i.e. defoliating) and you are willing to put up with the looks it is not a big problem. Sooty blotch and flyspeck are everywhere, that doesn’t really count as a disease and most apples get it (nearly all but russets).
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Fingers crossed here. After several years, it’s been one of my cleanest apples…but maybe the climate or something makes a difference.
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I’ve decided MAYBE REDFIELD doesn’t belong at #9…too many looked good but damaged inside by MAGGOTS.
And might be a good cider apple, but I prefer Niedzwitzkyana for eating.
I’m waiting for the thread to die down to make a final list. The thread stopped allowing me to make changes, so will have to open a new thread as well.
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I’ve eaten apples without wiping them clean (just rinsing them like any other fruit) without any adverse effects.
Mike
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@MES111 … Mike… I eat these like that… just a little shirt shine then eat em up.
That is my early mcintosh… they ripen early… June 10 - July 22 this year… slowly over several weeks.
They are always very clean apples… probably since so early…
But man… that gold rush…
Looks like it needs some scrubbing…
TNHunter
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Where did you find Early Mac at? I have Mac and Jonamac. Neither have fruited, but the trees have done well. I’m trying to build up my early apple collection. Only have Ginger Gold now, which also marks up with spots.
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Stark bros… 2002 or 2003… I think it was.
We built a new home on our property… in 2001 and best i remember i started a orchard either the first or second spring. 2 jplums 2 peaches 2 apples 2 pears.
Of those original trees i still have the 2 peaches… and one apple the early mc.
These are early mc apples being sauted in butter and maple syrup with a little cinnamon on June 12…
And below is the last one I picked this year on July 22.
It was a perfect apple… no worms… no blemishes… awesome flavor.
TNHunter
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Middle of july has to make them one of the earliest. Surprised it’s not more well known. Looks good. The pan really looks good.
The tree is about 15 ft tall… I thin what I can reach from the ground but I do not thin the top. Early June some of those over crowded apples in the top will drop… but they dont just drop… they actually turn red, ripen and drop. That is what I was cooking for breakfast on June 12… some June drop apples. It will do that for a couple weeks…and then the rest just hang on the tree and ripen a few at a time until mid july.
To me it is ideal… a slow steady supply of fresh ripe apples for over a month.
This pic was taken on June 27…we had picked a few that day… and had some early elberta peaches too.
I made jam from apples peaches blackberries… very good.
TNHunter
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Newbie here. What is meant by a “No Spray” apple?
If you mean spraying pesticides, fungicides–anycides, I’ve never sprayed any of those on any of my fruit tears, including my semi dwarf Anna Apple tree. Ive had it for 15 years, and the apples are fantastic, at least, those that the squirrels leave for men which is t’s enough.
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I could be wrong, but it’s beginning to look like it is mostly the thin skinned apples that have issue with spots.
thought my Anna apple tree was done for the season. Weeks ago, I picked all the fruit the squirrels didn’t get. Today I noticed the tree was once again COVERED with blossoms. That tree has NEVER produced two crops of apples in one year. What the heck is going on?
Yup, for those apples that I put up for long term storage, I let them sit in a water/beach solution for about 15 minutes(once I forgot and left them for 45 without any negative result) them I wipe them clean.
Mike
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The early McIntosh is a cross with yellow transparent… which ripens early.
Stark has yellow transparent listed on their website… and they say ripens as early as July.
Here in southern middle TN most of my early McIntosh ripen last half of June and early July.
It blooms long and ripens early over a long period.
TNHunter
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