Own-root pawpaw propagation

[NateConn]

Does anyone have any experience propagating pawpaws (or persimmons, or any other fruit trees that tend to spread by root suckers) in such a way that the suckers/stolons they send out will be identical to the scion and not the rootstock? I have heard of root grafting apples in a way that eventually girdles the rootstock, but it seems to me like this would not be very compatible with pawpaws or persimmons, both of which have strong taproots that they are very dependent on.

[poncirusguy]

Seed

[TrilobaTracker]

There have been some talks here about this with pawpaws. @disc4tw was really interested if I recall correctly.
The major centers of pawpaw research have evidently not succeeded in this method of propagation.

[disc4tw]

Interstem questions

Alright folks - I am going there. I know this thread has focused on apples and pears, but what about other “non-traditional” fruit? I am particularly interested in if anyone has tried an interstem for pawpaws? Obviously disease resistance/dwarfing characteristics aren’t as important as with apples and pears. I am particularly interested in passing traits such as high vigor onto less vigorous cultivars. I was thinking mainly about using ‘Mango’ to possibly reduce the years to bearing fruit for o…

This topic discusses it, as well as this one Pawpaw propagation from cuttings

Long story short, it can be done but it would take a lot of effort and many failed trials.

Persimmons are a little bit more optimistic.

Rooting Cuttings By Etiolation

Has anyone tried etiolation methods of rooting hard-to-root species, such as persimmon, apple, peach? I first came across the basic method while reading through Garner’s The Grafter’s Handbook and was intrigued. Garner describes basically leaning over the stock plant, pinning it to the ground, and burying it. You then repeatedly cover the shoots that emerge from the buried buds (similar to stooling rootstocks) to promote a blanched, leggy growth that is more likely to root. I found this more up-…

I have yet to have success but also haven’t been very good about taking care of cuttings. I will make a concerted effort when I have more material and free time (probably over the winter). I also need to track down a fog machine on clearance after Halloween to trial with these as well as some blueberries.

[BlueBerry]

Apparently they don’t root much from cuttings.