Pawpaws 2024

Made hand crank pawpaw ice cream for the 4th. It was a hit!! I use 1 cup pulp in a 2 quart ice cream recipe.
A couple years ago I invested in an Immergood maker. Great decision so far.

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Hi Vincent, I have numerous kiwis. You are welcome to cuttings anytime. Hardy kiwis grow easily from cuttings and golden kiwis have to be grafted but they grow easily.

I always fertilize pawpaws with few grains of urea 46-0-0 in early spring. It gives them a nice boost.

They have grown bigger than persimmons planted at the same time. Some say pawpaws are slow growing but not true in my experience.

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Are any of the other Asimina species useful as rootstocks?

Even if they were compatible, (not sure if they are), not sure what traits would be desirable from them, other than ā€œis adapted to a specific area of Floridaā€. Maybe dwarfing from like parviflora. The other asiminas are nearly all endemic to Florida/South Georgia, so their rootstock probably isnā€™t too hardy, and there also all smaller so probably not as vigorous. Triloba can handle the heat too, so I just donā€™t see any advantage as using them as rootstock, unless your in Florida and you have a local Asimina and triloba wonā€™t grow.

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Thank you Ram. I will try 46-0-0 fertilizer for my Pawpaw and Pluot next Spring. I really like some red hardy kiwi but not Ken red. Do you have Ken red? My Ken red never flower after six years old. How you think about Issai? I just ordered hardy red from OGW. Hopefully itā€™s not Ken red. Do you have Lili kiwi also and CORDIFOLIA? Thank you for information Ram.

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Depends on where you are, like @sharq mentioned most of the other asimina species are in FL. Some of the FL species are endangered as well.

I think if you had an abundance of other asimina species on your property it wouldnt hurt to top work some of them just to see. I would think that the dormancy differences of most triloba cultivars would be a problem when using a FL pawpaw species as a rootstock. Parviflora might work if youre in an area where they grow naturally, but im not sure if youd get any dwarfing benefit. Iā€™d try it if there were in my area.

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I killed all my LILI ( actually rabbits did). Iā€™ll add again this winter.

I do have cordifolia. Youā€™re welcome to cuttings. I also have numerous other red kiwis.

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I would like red kiwi. When you think good time for cutting? How do you use 46-0-0. Mix with water and spray? Can i use now instead Spring time? Some of my new grape so tiny maybe I give them as well? @ramv

I would imagine as well. My triloba went dormant in November and woke up in late March, my slimleaf pawpaw went dormant in January and woke up in early March. Thats only a 1 year sample (this year Iā€™ll have 3 maybe 4 species to look at) but I can see that causing issues, like the rootstock taking over the scion.
This is a personal interest to me, since I am in Florida, and I will probably be attempting a topwork graft on a parviflora or obovata at some point. They look the most compatible to me. Iā€™m trying to get my hands on all the pawpaws, for both fruit and butterflies.

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Anyone attempted grafts on months-old seedlings?
Talking 2-3mm caliper.
I have some scion this size, and itā€™s crossed my mind.
The seedlings are starting to lignify but my fear is that theyā€™re too ā€œsoftā€ā€¦ā€¦

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You can definitely use urea now. But be careful because the roots will burn unless you use a lot of irrigation.
Green grafting will work but sometimes they fail over winter. You are welcome to take cuttings now and try.

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Whatā€™s the name of your red hardy kiwi Ram? Thank you so much for the offering. I just testing on my Ken red cutting now for my 8by8 ft trellis.

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it took 6 years for my Paw Paws to flower, i cant even remember what verities i bought, i didnā€™t write it down. So a breeding program is certainly a time consuming endeavor. I hope there are time saving ways to see results in one lifetime.

It can be done, cambium contact should be easier. You have to be very gentle wrapping. Youā€™re basically just greenwood grafting.

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Thanks, I found a really helpful video here: https://youtu.be/4PB0Ym_iXmc

Looking at my local mulch shop (Order Mulch, SOD & Landscape Materials Online | Wagon Wheel | MA), Iā€™ve got pine, hemlock, cedar, black/chocolate, and playground quality wood chips all as options, all at the same price. I donā€™t know if it matters much from a plant quality perspective or if itā€™s just aesthetics?

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Thanks! Yeah, Iā€™m concerned about manhandling the thing. But I have done really tiny grafts in the pastā€¦

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Some more knowledgeable than me might say there are differences. If it were me Iā€™d go with the playground wood chips. Around here this usually means just tree service wood chips/ hardwoods etc. they should be innocuous and also have good water retention. Should also last longer than some of those others. I would avoid cedar or dyed mulch but thatā€™s just me.
Good luck!

I believe certified playground mulch is made of engineered wood fibersā€¦ maybe you could inquire. I donā€™t have an issue using pine based mulches on my trees and bushes, so thatā€™s probably what Iā€™d grab from that list because it seems the most natural.

Edited to add: I do a lot of mulching and just scalp the area with a mower and whip before mulching thickly. Cardboard creates an anaerobic environment and has a lot of other potential negatives, but itā€™s very popular.

Some reading you might find interesting (from Dr. Linda Chalker-Scott)

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Iā€™ve dug into the areas I placed single layers of cardboard as an alternative to landscaping fabric (which is bad on many levels). The cardboard is processed and no longer visible within a year in my environment. Between earthworms and bacteria it is broken down fairly fast. I think it is popular because it is a free alternative to landscaping fabric, and nobody wants to add microplastics to their soil more than is needed.

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It is popular, but since I want to avoid any negative impacts to soil health I totally avoid it. I can see why itā€™s popular, although in my opinion thick mulching accomplishes the same thing. In a huge space itā€™s way easier to spread mulch alone, but in a small patch the cardboard is probably simpler.

Re: landscape fabricā€¦ everywhere in our property, on acres and acresā€¦bored homeowners put it around every tree and weā€™ve spent so many hours digging it up - the worst!

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