West Tennessee.
Same varieties.
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I just pulled Rockbridgeâs list of varieties and would suggest adding Adams #5 as one of your nephewâs suggested varieties, but only if he has room. Adams #5 has been better adapted to cold weather than most southern sourced varieties. It breaks buds a week later than other varieties and is highly scab resistant. The only weakness Iâve seen is occasional black aphid damage. Home growers donât normally have problems with black aphids.
Adams 5
Amling Pecan
Apalachee Pecan
Baby B Pecan
Barton Pecan
Bean Pecan
Caddo Pecan
Campbell NC-4 Pecan
Caney Pecan
Carlson 3 Pecan
Clarksville Hican
Cramerâs Supreme Pecan
Deerstand Pecan
Dooley Pecan
Earlton Pecan
Excell Pecan
Faith Pecan
Fisher Pecan
Forkert Pecan
Fredâs Seedling Major Pecan
Gafford Pecan
Gardner Pecan
Gibson Pecan
Giftpack Pecan
Green River Pecan
Griffin#1 Pecan
Hall Pecan
Hardy Giant
Hark Pecan
Headquarters Pecan
Hirschi Pecan
Jackson Pecan
Kanza Pecan
Kiowa Pecan
Labette Pecan
Lakota Pecan
Liberty Pecan
Lipan Pecan
Lucas Pecan
Major Pecan
Mandan Pecan
Maramec Pecan
McMillan Pecan
Mohawk Pecan
Mullahy Pecan
Nacono Pecan
Norton Pecan Tree
Oconee Pecan
Osage Pecan
Oswego Pecan
Pawnee Pecan
Pleasanton Pecan
Posey Pecan
Pounds Pecan
Prilop Pecan
Rambo Pecan
Shepherd Pecan
Silverback Pecan
St Paul Pecan
Stuart Pecan
Syrup Mill
T-92 Hican
Thayer Pecan
VSB Pecan ( Volunteer State Bank)
Warren 346 Pecan
Yates 127
Yates 68 Pecan
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Iâve been looking thru Rockbridge website too. Spotted something that was interesting. It stated that the Hark nuts have a thick husk that does not release the nuts until after a hard freeze similar to Major and Kanza.
My thoughts about that are that all pecan varieties would be like that. Seems to me that the average hard freeze date here is around the end of the first week of November - say 7th-10th. My unknown pecan tree variety has not split its husk yet.
I usually try to harvest the nuts before they drop to prevent the squirrels from getting them.
Hark is descended from Major and shares bitternut traits including thick husk. A better trait is for a pecan to mature early enough so the husks dry and the nuts fall naturally. Hark and Kanza are primary suggestions for this general region. Major would also work but does not really contribute anything else of importance.
You may also need this info re pollination:
Adams #5 is overlapping very late protandrous
Amling is mid-season protandrous
Hark is early/mid protandrous
Kanza is mid-season protogynous
Lakota is early season protogynous
As a group, these are fully compatible pollinators. Adams #5 is an outlier so if you can only do 4 trees, it would be the one to exclude solely based on pollen compatibility. It is pollinated by late male blooms on Lakota so is a viable variety if you plant both.
Call Dave at Rockbridge and ask about pickup. He will probably discount prices a bit if your nephew can drive up to get the trees.
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Do these Look like Mohawk Pecan or what variety? It is a seedling of my neighborâs tree, Mohawk just came to my mind, i donât
really know what variety it was my neighborâs tree.
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Are you saying it is a seedling of your neighborâs tree? If so, you would have to post pictures of leaves and nuts from your neighborâs tree so it could possibly be identified.
Here is what I see. Leaves show heavy infection with zonate leaf spot. Leaf color indicates excess nitrogen was applied. Pecans are not quite mature yet and kernels suggest problems with nut filling. Presuming your central valley location has typical rainfall for the area, someone has probably been watering the tree. Here is a picture of Mohawk for comparison.
https://pecan.usda.gov/plantdetail/2726
It is more similar to Lakota.
https://pecan.usda.gov/plantdetail/1941
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After receiving some more information from my nephew by his words he is âgoing to try planting about 10-20 near the Loosahatchieâ. Loosahatchie is a river bottom that is often too wet making it undesirable for row crops especially the acreage near the river.
Iâm not sure what to tell him.
Tell him he needs more pecan trees. 
Yes, I gave him the list of the pecan trees Kanza, Hark, Amling. and Lakota and the advice to travel for a possible discount. Donât know of his knowledge of pecan trees though. Probably about the same as what I knew back in 2010 which is not much. I hope that he is not trying to do this too much on the cheap.
Back in the day, I purchased at 1st Monday 2 trees for 8 bucks apiece. Think they were both seedlings. The tree labeled Stuart has still not produced any pecans after about 13 years. Iâve read that Stuart seedling pecans are very undesirable.
I have 2 Stuart seedlings growing in my yard. Both are about 50 years old and make small nearly useless pecans. I picked up about 30 pounds so far and have at least 30 more pounds still on the trees. Seedlings generally donât perform as well as the parents. Iâll cut these trees down sometime this winter because scab demolishes them in wet years.
IMO, he could save a lot of money by planting seedlings and later grafting them. Unfortunately, this is not likely to work for most people. Kanza, Hark, Amling, and Lakota would still be first choice.
If you want a few more varieties as options, these would work.
Adams #5 - as above, has exceptionally good scab resistance
Green River
Labette
Major
Oswego
St. Paul
Thayer
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Iâll give a second for âMajorâ. Itâs been propagated for over 100 years, and even as recently as 25 yrs ago, growers in KY were recommending it comprise 70% of any significant plantings⌠yes, the nuts are small-med(78/lb), but scab resistance is excellent, kernel quality is excellent, and it appears to âdownsizeâ nuts in drought years, producing smaller, but filled kernel - and appears to pass these traits on to many of its offspring.
âPoseyâ is another to consider. Large nut for a northern pecan, with thin shell, good scab resistance. Itâs not a heavy bearer, but consistent, and rarely drops into alternate bearing. Kernels are very tasty, but do tend to darken quickly, so need to be shelled & frozen asap to as to avoid the âlookâ of old, rancid nuts.
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Thank you. I also have another question, I went foraging to a public park near me and found these pecans, thought I had enough to eat for a week, but upon v=cracking one I noticed they did not fill, all are like that, would it be a pollination issue or what? I also picked some regular carya illinoiensis and those are fully grown so its not a watering issue I believe, since they are in the same park and both have no direct access to water after rain season. see pics. Thank you!
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Unfilled kernels ultimately are caused by genetics. Your kernels are at water stage when other pecans in the area have already filled. Either the tree needs a much longer season or it was subject to high stress over the summer. Disease, lack of water, or lack of nutrients in the soil could be culprits. Regardless, I donât recommend doing anything with a tree such as this other than ignoring it or cutting it down.
In England about 150 years ago, a common saying was âlike begets likeâ meaning the offspring tend to resemble the parents. Also âbreed your best to your best and sometimes you will get better than bestâ meaning crossing two very good parents occasionally produces an offspring better than either parent. Pecans follow this paradigm where planting seed nuts from exceptionally good trees sometimes produces a new tree better than the parents.
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Thank You!
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In anticipation of further questions, the nephew could ask me I went out to my pecans and measured the spacing between the 4 trees. Found that they were 40 feet apart which I know is perhaps too close for long term. I donât think that I would recommend to him planting at a close spacing and then thinning at a later date.
What would be the proper spacing for 10-20 pecan trees for long term? Iâm guessing at about 60â.
For your nephewâs purposes, anything between 45 and 70 feet will work. In years past, 60 feet was standard.
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Iâm thinking about ordering either some in-shell or shelled pecans from Bass. Last year I could not find any roadside stands or grocery stores around here that sold them. I know they are high priced. $20 bucks for a 3-pound bag of in-shell is outrageous.
Anyone here have any advice?
In the central valley of CA pecans like that are from lack of water. To get good pecan fill in areas like Fresno would require at least two inches of water a week and three would be better. Thatâs during the dry season May thought September or longer. August and September are particularly critical for good nut fill. Earlier, June and July, will affect nut size.
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30 years ago, when I was in my early to mid-30s, I was planting pecans on 40 ft spacings.
Today⌠Iâm planting pecans/hickories on 20-25 ft spacings, and hoping I live long enough to see them bear. Someone else will be thinning them⌠or, in all likelihood, removing them.
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