Thank you all so much… some great advice and recommendations here. Just what I was looking for.
Especially this statement — Hello fellow Middle Tennessean. I grow Kanza, Lakota, and Amling pecans. They do great here and are very disease resistant. No sprays needed.
Rob on the chestnuts… and wildlife… I have lots of deer, wild turkey and squirrel, rabbits, etc… on my property and about 27 acres of mature Tennessee hardwood forest… mostly White, Red, Chestnut (we call em Mountain Oaks) and to a lesser extent… Black oaks, Post oaks, Hickory, Poplar, Maple. In good acorn years, they get plenty of those. Down in one of my hollows, near a creek and bluff there are some wild chestnuts growing… Noticed them when digging ginseng one year. Huge (Spine coverd) husks, and the nuts themselves were quite large. At least quarter sized or larger. They liked where they were growing - looked very healthy and were producing lots of nuts. Unfortunately that is a long walk from my house, so I just dont go and collect them. I am sure the Deer, Turkeys and Squirrel do though.
On the difference in Chestnuts and Hazelnuts… (keto carb count wise).
1/4 cup of Chestnuts has 18.93 g carbs, 1.8 g fiber, Net Carbs 17.13
1/4 cup of Hazelnuts has 5.64 g carbs, 3.3 g fiber, Net Carbs 2.34
I limit my carbs to 25-30 net g per day, and maintain ketosis well with that. I also do intermittent fasting (6 hour feeding window, 18 hour fasting). Might seem extreme to some, but I was extremely ill at one point, had part of my colon removed twice… and now I have no problems at all. Had a colonoscopy (regular 5 year thing) around 6 months into Keto Diet… and actually on day 25 of a Zero Carb diet (Carnivore mostly, meat, eggs, butter, ghee, salt, water)… which I maintained for 31 days… and my GI DR could not believe the change in my colon. No inflammation, no problems at all. He said what ever you are doing, keep doing it. So I am sticking with low carb, keto and only wish I had figured this out 40 years ago.
Anyway… probably a little TMI there… but that is part of my journey… and the reason I limit carbs.
Wdingus… thanks for the link to that TN AG pg1810, I read that and printed it off.
Now I am even more interested in finding out exactly what kind of Hickory Tree that it is that I have out in my field. I have 4 hickory trees out there… and 3 - I am pretty sure they are pignuts… The info in that pg1810 helped confirm that some. They are pretty trees, turn a nice yellow in the fall, are producing nuts now, most years anyway, and squirrels to eat them.
But I do have this 1 hickory that is just way different than the other 3 (bark wise).
The info below if from that pb1810 document…
Tree with long plates of shaggy (scaly), peeling bark… Possible Hickories – Shagbark, Shellbark, Southern shagbark, Water
Leaflets usually 5 per leaf - Pignut, Shagbark, Southern shagbark
I am pretty sure that all 4 of those hickory trees in my field have the same type leaflets (5 per leaf).
3 I think are pignut, 1 is definitely different based on bark.
Here is more description they provided on 3 that I think it might be…
Shagbark Hickory (Carya ovata [Mill.] K. Koch) Shagbark hickory is common throughout Tennessee and is tolerant of both dry and moderately moist soils, growing along creeks, in mountain coves, and on hilltops and slopes. The nut is sweet and is sometimes produced and sold commercially. Pg. 16. Shellbark Hickory (Carya laciniosa [Michx. f.] G. Don)
Shellbark hickory has a sporadic presence in Tennessee with the greatest concentrations in the Mississippi and Tennessee River bottoms and in the western Highland Rim in Middle Tennessee. Primarily, it is a bottomland species, often found on deep, moist, but well-drained soils. The very large nut of this species also is sweet. Pg. 17. Southern
Southern Shagbark Hickory (Carya carolinaeseptentrionalis [Ashe] Engl. & Graebn.) Southern shagbark hickory is scattered throughout Tennessee but is most common in the Central and Southcentral regions. It grows on upland ridges and side slopes, particularly on limestone-derived soils. Like the larger fruit of the shagbark and shellbark, the nut of southern shagbark is sweet. Pg. 18.
Good news is the nut is described as sweet on all 3 of those.
SO I got out this morning and took a pic of the 1 that I am wondering exactly which variety it is.
As you can see the bark is definitely not like the pignut bark, it is sort of hanging off in sheets. Where the pignut bark is somewhat ridged, but tight to the tree.
I looked at the bark in that publication on all of those and I think I might have a Southern Shaqbark Hickory here… There are more of those down in my woods but this one is about 80 yards from my front porch.
PS… that Tree is 16" diameter (1 foot up from ground), and best I can estimate between 50-60 ft tall.
It has been producing nuts on a regular basis for many years now. So have the pignuts in the field.
I am thinking that if they are producing nuts in that location, that is a good sign.
I would love to have a few pecans, walnuts and hazelnuts to go with the (possible) Southern Shaqbark Hickory.
Let me know if you have other opinion on the type of hickory that is. In the dead of winter, not much else to look at besides the bark for identifying it.
On Walnuts… I have not found any wild black walnuts on my place. There are some on land not too far from my property (in a large creek bottom). I wonder if I would have any luck with Black Walnuts.
Hickory definately like growing on my place, but walnuts may be a different story.
English/Persian Walnuts ??? one one catalog I have they have CHANDLER listed, and those sound great. I looked them up on youtube and a lot of folks having success in growing them, very productive, early producers, but not sure if they would do well on my place.
Any recommendations on Hazelnut varieties for my place, Disease resistance a must, ridge top land, decent soil, grows hickory and oaks well, as well as lots of fruit trees and berry bushes and other garden stuff.