Persimmon mother load

WOW. That is incredible. Is the Rich Tooie on its own roots or is it a graft?

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@ansayre … on its own roots.

It is a wild dv here in southern TN… some have said it may be a 90c persimmon instead of a 60c.

Where my sisters home is… it used to be a cow pasture… and they built a subdivision there 30 years ago… these wild dv are in a full sun location on her yard and i expect they were just wild trees origionally in that pasture.

She has two in her yard and one more behind her garage they are nice mature trees that produce loads of delicious fruit.

I grafted scions of rich tooie onto some of my wild dv rootstock here this spring. Hopefully in a few years… . I have some here.

Rich Tooie is a nice sized persimmon for a wild here…larger than average.

I will collect some scionwood late January and will have that for trade if anyone is interested.

I am going to graft one more here at my place…

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amazing

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Those trees have some age on them. They are super good because of the full sun. How much seed do they have in them?

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@Robert … they average 5-7 seeds per fruit.

I have supplied several hundred to others on the board that asked… in trades.

The first person i traded with asked that they be shipped fresh in pulp. Research had led him to believe you get better germination with fresh seeds vs dried.

I saved the seeds from the fruit i ate last night in pulp in a ziplock bag in the fridge… just in case someone wanted them.

I will have to check my trade list… think i have already promised some to someone.

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Second trip to my sisters today for more rich tooie persimmons.

Got a big bowl full of these…

Man that tree is loaded… and several dropped while I was there… but many are still quite firm and have a way to go before ripe.

This is what they look like just before I eat them.

:wink:

If anyone else needs seeds… I should have a few hundred over the next week. Would like to trade seeds for H63A or Journey Hybrid scion… Pristine apple or clarks crab scion… AU cherry plum scion… any of those.

Thanks
TNHunter

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Hi,

Do you still have those persimmon seeds?
Would you trade for a scions of the jujube tree (Lee or Lang)?

Thank you.

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@TNHunter

Those look good!

@adammar … sorry no seeds left at this point. Next fall I will offer more seeds from her trees… as long as there is fruit.

@clarkinks – they are good.

Thanks

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@TNHunter

Can’t wait to try them!

Hi,

Do you have any seeds this year?

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I had one person ask for rich tooie seeds this fall and I sent those to him Oct 22.

I can normally supply seed when the fruit is ripening… mid Sept to early Nov.

Several asked for scion wood and I have worked out trades for all the scion wood that is available.

TNHunter

Do you have any scions that you can send me?

I can trade (can cut scions or ground layer them and send you rooted seedlings:

CHERRIES:

Bing,
Rainer

NANKING CHERRIES:

Jules White Nanking Cherry

Ian White Nanking Cherry

Gabe White Nanking Cherry

JUJUBES:

Native Jujube (Ziziphus jujuba Mill)

Li,

Lang,

ASIAN PEARS:

Chojuro

Drippin’ Honey

FIGS:

Atreano Fig

Verte (Strawberry Verte)

Osborn Prolific Fig

Brown Turkey

Black Mission

Unnamed:

(Fire Island Fig)

(Mama’s Fig)

(Mietek’s Fig)

(Julio’s Sasiad Fig)

(Arabic Sasiad’s Fig)

(My yard’s Fig)

RASPBERRIES:

Willamette Raspberry

Dorman Raspberry

Black Hawk Black Raspberry

Cumberland Black Raspberry

MULBERRIES:

Pink mulberry

White mulberry

ARCTIC RASPBERRIES

Valentina Arctic Raspberry

Sophia Arctic Raspberry

Beta Arctic Raspberry

Anna Arctic Raspberry

HUCKLEBERRIES

Black Huckleberry (Graylussagia Bocatta)

Box Huckleberry (Gaylussagia Brocher)

GOOSEBERRIES:

Hinammaki Red Gooseberry

Hinammaki Yellow Gooseberry

Champion Gooseberry

Black Velvet Gooseberry

Golda Gooseberry

Red George Gooseberry

BLACK CURRANTS:

Laxton Giant Black Currant

Blackdown Black Currant

Slitsa Black Currant

PINK CURRANTS:

Champagne Pink Currant

JOSTABERRIES:

Black Jostaberry

Red Jostaberry

BLACKBERRIES:

Triple Crown Blackberry

Choctaw Blackberry

Comanche Blackberry

HONEYBERRIES (Haskaps):

Blue Sea Honeyberry

Blue Pagoda Honeyberry

Blue Sky Honeyberry

Blue Pacific Honeyberry

Blue Lighting Honeyberry

Blue Birg Honeyberry

Berry Blue Honeyberry

Boreal Beast Honeyberry

Boreal Blizzard Honeyberry

Boreal Beauty Honeyberry

Berry Blue (Czech 17) Honeyberry

Aurora Honeyberry

Tundra Honeyberry

Honey Bunch Honeyberry

Keiko Honeyberry

Taka Honeyberry

Tana Honeyberry

Maxie Honeyberry

ELDERBERRIES:

Adam’s Elderberry

York Elderberry

HARDY KIWIS:

Issai Hardy Kiwi

Chang Bai Hardy Kiwi

Dumbarton Oaks Hardy Kiwi

FUZZY KIWIS:

Blake Fuzzy Kiwi

Maria Fuzzy Kiwi (male)

PAW PAWS:

Native PawPaw

DWARF POMEGRANATES:

Dwarf Pomegranate

Phoenicia Pomegranate

Palermo Pomegranate

MUSCADINE GRAPES:

Fry Scuppernong

Delight Seedless Grape (?)

Niagara Bunch Grape (?)

PLUMS:

Hoops Red Leaf Cherry Plum

Opal European Plum

BUSH CHERRIES:

Hansen Bush Cherry

ORHERS:

Sweet Scarlet Goumi

American Hazelnut

Blueberry (?)

Allegheny Serviceberry

Quince Province

Black Walnut

Staghorn Sumac

Stinging Nettle

Osage Orange (rootstock for Che)

Send me please list of your plants - maybe we can trade…

You might have better luck making a post in the trading post section of the forum. More people will see it there.

@adammar … Rich Tooie is a shy bearer of good scionwood.

I was able to collect 6 scions from it this winter and had trades arranged on those back in December or earlier.

I have 3 people in line for scion wood next winter.

I will check the tree out good in October, or early November and get an estimate of scionwood available.

I normally collect scion in January or early February.

If you want to get in line for possible scionwood next winter … let me know. I can put you down as 4th person requesting scion.

I will not know until October or November next year exactly how many scions are available.

Sorry but southern persimmons dont produce nice thick limb tip wood like northern persimmons do. The majority of the limb tip wood is very thin.

I normally only find good scionwood on it in places where a limb has broken or been cut off by an insect. It produces some thicker scion in places like that.

Thanks
TNHunter

Yes - definitely I wanna be on the waiting list.
Please put me down.
Thank you.

@adammar … I have you in my trade book for next winter.

Thanks

TN Hunter, on some of my mature local ‘wild’ natives, I’ve had to prune limbs back HARD to get them to throw out vigorous shoots that will work for scionwood.
I’m needing to do that with some of my grafted trees that are nearly 30 years old… they bear so heavily that without some pruning to foster ‘watersprout’ type vigorous growth, it’s hard to find decent shoots that can function as good scions.

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@Lucky_P … that is the problem with Rich Tooie exactly… limb growth that terminates normally is just very thin… 1/8 inch or less.

But in places that there has been limb damage (those insects that cut a trench all the way around a limb) and it breaks off… or just a limb that broke from storm damage…

It will grow some nice sprouts there with good diameter.

I have a pole saw/pruner… and now you have given me a great idea how to help the problem.

Thanks a lot Lucky !

Also… appreciate those nice trailman scions.

TNHunter