I didnt put plastic down and mine were well rooted into ground! good idea, wow those tap roots rock!
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Would you consider doing a bud insert in mid August?
It would be allowed to go dormant, overwinter to the cut above bud to force.
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yup, thanks:)
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@noogy
My experience chip budding persimmons in “late summer” has been disappointing.
While with apples ,pears, peaches , I often get 95% + takes .
With persimmons it’s often 20-30% .in late summer, ~ 90+ in spring
It seems that in late summer ,persimmons creates a black sticky sap in response to wounding , ( budding) that interferes with healing.
@Barkslip , have you ( or others ? ) experienced this , ? Do you have good luck
Budding persimmons in late summer ?
I Have not noticed this sap in the spring .
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Never budded a persimmon late summer. I got horrible seedlings right now so not a fair test either.
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@Barkslip … on the Quercus stellata question… i had to look that up. Common name Post Oak - right ?
In that pic you asked about there are some nice white oaks, hickorys (red pig)… and a smaller (what i always called post oak).
I can see no acorns on the smaller post oak this year…
Now i have 30 acres… 3 acres cleared and 27 in heavy timber.
My most common trees are what we call mountain oaks (chestnut oaks) huge acorns. And also lots of white oaks… but we also have red, black, post oaks in lesser qty but still hundreds of them.
In my back yard… i have a decent sized post oak.
At least this is what I think is a post. Check it out and make sure this is what you are looking for.
Ps… i checked it out and saw just a few tiny acorns developing.
Now down in one of my hollows… i expect i could find some much larger post oaks… amd possibly some better acorns there.
Below is a pic of a nice white oak also in my back yard.
It supports a swing and a corn feeder.
TNHunter
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Very cool, oaks. I’d love some acorns if you would, maybe 30 at the most.
If you would please separate any scrubby forms of post oak seed from taller post oak, that would be appreciated. I’d prefer the smaller form.
Thanks!
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Grafting and budding persimmon on 7-6-22 is still do able. Here they are at 90 to 98 degree weather at the time of grafting.
JBT-06 (JT-02x Rossyanka male)
The rest are Rossyanka male-22F cold hardy, Super Rossyanka, one more JBT -06 and budded Rossyanka male they are about to taking off with the green buds.
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I experienced the sap akin to what you find on stone fruit on a side graft done on 7-3-22. At the same time, same stick of Prairie Star grafted to green wood and last years wood took.
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My two persimmon seedlings… are looking much better on new leaf growth now… adding some bone meal gypsum blood meal epsom salt green sand… and compost tea… seems to have corrrected the problem.
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Looks good. Planted out, you will expect the lower leaves to develop the dark green that you see on your wild “discovered” seedling in the pic above. Persimmon are pretty forgiving, and a person can probably overdo it with playing with the soil in pots I think. You are getting good growth. Happy trees.
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anyone know what the roots on persimmon sprouts look like at this point? this is a super shallow tin and i forgot that they act different than pawpaw after germination and actually put up a shoot right away. should i wait for them to unbend themselves before moving them or is that going to make the tap go funny on the bottom?
I have about 35 sprouted persimmons that I am dealing with right now. I would transplant them ASAP. The tap root moves quick!
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would you bury them again in the transplant or bury them up to the bend or something 
The little stem is white under the soil. After transplanting I would burying them up to where the white transitions to red. Don’t try and unbend them, they will do that with time.
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pulled the ones that were popping:
potted them at a similar depth to when i pulled them:
did you put em under lights at this stage or wait till fully above soil level?
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I put them under grow lights but I can’t say whether or not that made a difference. Looks like you got to them before the tap root got to big!
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