Here are a few Geneva long pictures for reference. Mine tend to be bigger than the ones pictures, but persimmon size can be variable from year to year and also depending on tree maturity. Not sure what the little ones are.
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It looks similar. These trees have been neglected for about 5 years since the estate has been unattended. I only recently went back to see how things were surviving. Are there any other D. virginiana with that shape?
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Not that I know of. But it can’t be that uncommon. One of the first hybrid seedlings to fruit for me has that shape as well.
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I have some wild ones on the farm that are small and long ,longer than those I think .?
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@Seattlefigs is it better to pot chocolate in seattle weather? I’m much interested in your experience with this and coffee cake as i think vancouver weather is close enough to yours.
my friend is growing the coffeecake and chocolate in ground. the coffeecake is already ripe and chocolate is a few weeks away. so for now i think coffeecake is ideal for in ground and chocolate might do better potted until i know more when she harvest her chocolate tree in the next few weeks.
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Hi Andrew,
I was going over some older persimmon-related posts and came across this one about your grafts being rejected by rootstocks from a “local” source. Would those by any chance be the ones from the Pennsylvania company I told you about? If so, I’m really sorry! This year I did not graft to the ones I obtained from that source, preferring to give them a year to get established on their roots first. Would you advise me not to use those rootstocks next year?
Rick
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They actually came from a local nursery that had cheap seedlings for sale in pots. The ones we got from the source you’re referring to always had a near 100% take for me other than grafts that I did poorly (bad cuts, misaligned, wind breakage, etc.)
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FYI, Just Fruits and Exotics has 16 Rojo Brillanti persimmons that they just received today. They can sell two per customer. The website hasn’t been updated yet and still says out of stock, but you can call to place an order until it is…ask for Lisa.
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Nikitskaya Bordovaya or Nikita’s Gift as you know it…close to 10 year old tree grafted onto virginiana rootstock. Pollinator nearby in this case another hybrid called Universal that serves to 30 female trees.
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This is the first time I’ve had so many varities to pick. Any suggestions on when to pick these?
Inchon:
Korea:
H-120:
Miss Kim:
Il Jae Moh Oha Ryang:
Picudo:
Nikita’s Gift:
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They look great. Glad to see Picudo is productive for you too. My tree has lots of fruit clusters. Which varieties seem to have the largest fruit for you?
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I haven’t picked anything other than a H-120 (the smallest type), so I’m not sure. I think Il Jae Moh Oha Ryang may have the largest fruit as well as the largest name.
Korea and Picudo are both good sized as well as productive. I think I’ve got ~30 of Korea on the one branch (it’s a graft on H-120), along with Inchor.
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Bob,
I have heard of Inchon but not Inchor. Is this also a Korean variety?
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Which is your earliest kaki?
I don’t really know. That’s part of why I posted the pics. In the past I’ve picked them and found out that they were green…This is one of the first times being color-blind seems to have an impact. Going from yellow to brown on jujubes is easy for me to see but persimmon coloring is tougher. I figured that I’d just wait longer to be sure, with the one exception being when they start to get the translucent look. Then I figure they are ready, though I’m guessing I could pick some before that point.
Do you see any in the above pics that you’d pick? Maybe the Nikita’s Gift (last pic)?
Looks like poor vision is the answer to this one as well. Or poor handwriting on the scionwood, but it’s probably my fault. I bet what I have is Inchon. It came 2nd hand from Cliff and I see that he grows Inchon and the pics of the fruit on Facebook look similar.
I looked for “Il Jae Moh Oha Ryang” and the closest I could find was “IL Mok Jae Cha Ryang”.
i think they are all ready to pick except for Picudo
however depending if it astrigent type like miss kim and nikita gift you need to keep on counter to let it soften before eating
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That’s great to hear that you are fruiting many of the varieties I have growing. Which seems larger for you? Miss Kim or Inchon? I’ve read that they are similar. Only my Miss Kim fruited this year, and the fruit is about the size of a small supermarket Fuyu. It’s twice the size of Great Wall and Nikita’s Gift.
I have a whole tree of Il Mok Jae Cha Ryang from Cliff. It’s about 7 feet tall now, and flowered this year, but dropped all the fruitlets. I’m glad to hear the fruit size is good on this one. I got it as a hopefully cold hardier nonastringent. @cousinfloyd Take a look at Bob’s Il Mok Jae Cha Ryang.
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They don’t seem too different by eye. I’ll do a side-by-side once I pick them.
One other variety is Chienting. It is at a rental, so I last got a pic on Monday:
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I harvested the rest of my Nishimura Wase today. We’re expecting a frost this week and I didn’t want them all to soften at once from the freeze.
Clearly I didn’t do a good job estimating how many fruit were on the tree. It isn’t a sure bet in my zone, but at least it paid for itself with this harvest if it does die one winter.
Here are the few Tipo that I could reach. It’s a very vigorous and vertical growing tree. I’m not supposed to really be climbing stuff right now, so the birds might get the ones near the top.
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