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People have been importing (60 and 90) north and south for decades. I’d be willing to bet everywhere at least has pockets of both. Pretty sure I have both.
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And animals as the roam with the seeds in their gut.
When I first planted persimmons, I looked at one of those maps and thought, “Great, I’ll have seedless persimmons.” But they have always had seeds, so I know there are plenty of 90C trees in the area with male flowers. I know plenty of other people who are supposed to be in 60C areas who have found there are at least some 90C trees nearby giving them seeds. I imagine far south areas would be still 60C or mostly 60C, but for anyone within a couple hundred miles of the magical line on those maps, I think the chances of a mix are pretty high.
I don’t mind the seeds really when I’m just eating them, but once I have enough to start processing for pulp, etc. seedless would certainly make life easier.
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I do not know if persimmons work like cherries but here is some info. There were and possibly still are a type of cherry called Duke. A sweet x sour cross that sets fruit. Different ploidy. The seeds of Duke will not grow.
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Some examples are:
Early Duke
May Duke
Royal Duke
Late Duke
Abesse d’Oignies
Reine Hortense
For the past two months I’ve been grafting persimmon trees (50 or so as of today) when they wake up and leaf out to the quarter size. So far 11 different varieties look promising as the buds are swelling or they’ve put out leaves and growth. I’d say about 30 look like the grafts have at least started to take. I still have 10 more trees that haven’t woken up yet. We’ve had weird weather and they seem to want to wake on their own time table letting me graft about 10 plants per week.
I bought my persimmon seedlings from MDC so they should be 90c and I live in NC and can’t find any native persimmons near me. There are 60 acres behind me that are getting developed and I took a handful of walks and couldn’t locate any wild 60c trees.
I planted 6 seedlings in ground and the rest in pots and the pots definitely woke up before my in ground ones. Likely more sun and better soil conditions (this is my guess).
One of my varieties has a few leaves with dark tips. I’ve looked up nutrient deficiencies but can’t determine if they are lacking or my humid, hot weather just let them go crispy. The rest seem okay. So far here are the varieties that have shown some life on DV (suspected 90c) rootstock
American
Early Jewel, Nakita’s Gift, JT-02 / Rossy male cross, Dr. Kazas / Rossy male cross, Dollywood
Asian
Izu, Jiro, Hachiya, Suruga, Rolo Brillante, Saijo
Any advice about the crispy leaves would be welcome. THX!
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Does anyone know if it’s possible to differentiate between a fuyu and a saijo when the fruit is at this stage (see pic), or do I need to wait longer before Saijo’s distinctive egg shape becomes more obvious? My Saijo is in its 3rd leave and finally have some fruits. Since it was from Willis nursery I’m nervous that it may have been mislabeled.
Doesn’t look like Saijo to me.
Do you have any pic of what Saijo looks like when they’re acorn size?
I don’t. I will, in a couple of weeks.
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Here is a picture of a Saijo fruit developing on a tree I planted at my neighbors. He hasn’t had fruit yet to confirm it, but the scion source was reliable. Maybe @ramv can confirm if they are usually show prominent lobes like this.
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Oh boy, that doesn’t look like the fruit on my Saijo tree from Willis. I was wondering why they look so much like the one on my fuyu tree…LOL
I’m sure they’ll give you your money back…