You can always prune it to keep it whatever size you want. I have american persimmons that I would like to keep fruit within reach for easy harvesting. They tend to go splat when they fall from too high up.
Yeah I wanted to use it but knew it would be more work. I think disease resistance is also higher in kaki/lotus
Aha, so certain D.v. can carry SKDS even though immune. Interesting. SKDS is a mysterious beast.
That’s my working theory based on the fact that some D. virginiana rootstocks repeatedly reject all kaki grafts (in my experience these are usually rootsuckers of well-established trees or the surviving rootstocks of grafted kaki trees that succumbed to KSDS). Other D. virginiana rootstocks are easy to graft with kaki scions (and these rootstocks are seedlings from Missouri Dept of Conservation or rootsuckers of healthy grafted kaki trees). So I’m assuming that a KSDS pathogen (Xylella fastidiosa?) can infect D. virginiana without symptoms and cause kaki graft failures since D. kaki is susceptible.
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@speedengineer … last year when my new cardinal was about a foot tall tiny thing… but putting on a little growth… it set two blossoms.
It was so small… i removed them.
This year it has had a long growth spurt… still going… but no blossoms so far this year.
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Hopefully it’ll flower next year now that it is sizing up!
For mine, I’ll leave the flowers on, as I’m curious what will happen. Will probably drop, or not ripen. I’m not worried about stunting the growth, as I’m trying to keep this as a small potted tree anyway.
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Anyone growing Tanenashi have a size comparison pic?
A little follow up on this. It took over a month, but this chomped little seedling is finally generating new growth. So don’t give up on newly sprouted seedlings.
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Transplanted my Dar Sofiyivky (grafted in 2024) to a new location. Kept the root ball intact to avoid unnecessary stress on the tree.
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@ukie … excellent job on that transplant.
Check out the pic below…
This is part of our new home site… that I have cleared. The basement will open up to this hillside.
All those shoots in the pic are persimmons.
The ground here is full of them.
TNHunter
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For me my persimmons have a ridiculously long taproots, maybe soil difference?
Here’s is a 5" tree that I somehow got the taproot instead of it popping it off like most all.
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So, a couple of weeks ago I posted in this thread a picture of a DEC Goliath graft that was looking very good and strong and suddenly wilted overnight. I was certain it was a goner. See photo below:
I cut all the wilted stem and leaves off back to where the stem was still upright on the off chance it might live and put out new leaves. Never really sure what might have happened to cause such sudden wilting of thick new branches, but finally concluded, after input from others, that a deer may have pulled on it or bumped the graft trying to get to the succulent new growth.
Well lo and behold, I checked it a few days ago and found what appears to be healthy new growth and leaves coming from it. See photo below:
I don’t know what is going on or why, but maybe there is hope for it!
I grafted to 6 good size wild American persimmons in my field that I beheaded, and at least one graft took on each stump. Two of those trees had two main trunks coming off the trunk coming from the ground so I grafted to both trunks on those trees. Despite deer eating some of the graft branches and leaves and birds perching on them and breaking a Rosseyanka graft branch, they have come back out and are getting taller and I am hopeful they may yet survive the animals browsing and perching.
On one of the trees with two main stumps, I grafted a Rosseyanka and a Dollywood. See photo below:
I thought it was interesting how different the leaves are. The Dollywood is on the right in the picture, taller and with reddish leaves. Very pretty, I think. The Rosseyanka is on the left and was nibbled on by deer but has come back. Leaves are all green. It will be interesting to see how they both do on the same tree.
I mowed my upper field today and mowed around 5 or 6 wild persimmons that have sprouted up. Hopefully they will be big enough to graft some other varieties to next spring or the year after. Really don’t need more persimmons, but the grafting bug has bitten me and those wild rootstock just keep sprouting everywhere. Might as well put some of them to good use since I’m not using the field for anything else right now.
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Any spray for these guys? Are they Aphids?
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Great pic, thanks for sharing!
Where was your rootstock planted, tube or in ground?
It’s amazing that you managed to pull such a long and brittle tap root intact.
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I planted it in ground. With a spade I can pretty consistently dig all the top 16"-20" of roots, but they hardly do any branching.
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I didn’t know either. AI thinks they are probably whiteflies. I looked up photos and that seems likely.
They feed on the sap, and secrete honeydew like aphids. They can transmit plant viruses.
Insecticidal soap or neem oil will kill them, supposedly.
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Nice just got a few different kinds for Ace Hardware. Thanks!
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Whiteflies or thrips. Although I can’t recall thrips flying around like that here.
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Psyllids… will make the edge of the leaves curl up like that. They are little white sap suckers.
I use Sevin spray… takes them out nicely.
Looks like you may have more than one pest involved there.
That is a graft of saijo that I did this spring… the lower leaves were damaged by psyllids… I sprayed it with Seven two times… and the top growth was back to normal.
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