This may seem stupid, but I couldn’t find how to write PM here… Perhaps PM not available to newbies?
Taste is kind of subjective, but could comment on which varieties (hybrid, Asian, American) that you grow, or have tried, that taste better than Kasandra? I’m new to persimmons and just wondering about other peoples’ experiences. Thanks.
I agree. My opinion will change day after day.
Some days I think Nikita’s gift is the best, some days it is Chichupaka, or a PVNA variety like Mikatani Gosho.
Kasandra is consistently good to excellent.
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So you got worthwhile Saijo fruit this year? Does semi green mean like my picture?
Congrats! Hopefully I did too, getting close.
Yes. They were very sweet and ripened well off the tree. In fact they ripen too fast!
I’ve only 20 or so to worry about, but perhaps in future years some refrigeration may slow down or spread out the ripening.
Yesterday had a knock on back door- it was a Ukranian family that recently fled the war. They noticed my loaded Giboshi tree and wanted to learn who was growing it. As we know, Ukranians know their persimmons so I took them to the tree, cut them a big bag of fruit. The lady ate one and almost cried- it reminded her so much of home. I invited them to return often and help me eat any fruit I grow. A really special encounter. They had given up hope any Americans knew how to grow persimmons.
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I’m not sure which thread it was in, but we had a thread on here somewhere about keeping persimmon tree fruit within reach from the ground. For a low, (forced, a bit) spreading form I saw something like this suggested:
You’ll get less fruit probably than letting it reach for the heavens, but stouter branches so you don’t have to make a string and pulley contraption to keep the tree from wrecking itself, and it’ll stay shorter.
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They are good, and starting to be ready. These were from a closed bag with an apple. The Coffeecake had a little astringency on one side, surprisingly the softer side.
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This story makes me happy!
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I compare the varieties, all are very tasty, sweet. If well ripened (with apples), without astringency. Sugar content in Nikita’s Gift 25-28%. In others 20-26%.
There is a pollinator, so there are a lot of seeds in the fruits. You can use them for future selection.
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Anyone else ever gotten a seed from JT02?
Yes. Lots.
Ditto, lots. There’re nearby PVNAs with plenty of flowers, plus a Taishu.
I’ve fruited two hybrids – Kasandras and JT-02. Kassandra produces way more seeds, but I get plenty from JT-02.
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Does anyone have any idea what variety of persimmon a friend of my mom has? it seems to have a pointy end and is astringent.
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I let my last group of IKKJs hang on the tree for most of the month of October… they were orange and got a little darker orange…
Nov 5th… I picked the last fruit from the tree and have been trying to counter ripen them to that soft red stage since then.
I tried spraying them with 100 proof vodka… for a few weeks… and eventually put a small glass of vodka under my glass bowl with the remaining 5 fruit. They very slowly turned more reddish… and about a week after putting the small glass of vodka in with them… a couple of them have softened and turned that translucent red color.
We ate one after dinner tonight.
It was very good… very soft and gooie… but it seems to me that they lost a little sweetness and flavor… compared to the few I had that tree ripened soft and red back when we had hot weather.
None have gone bad at all… even after just hanging on the tree for a month… then sitting on the counter for another month at room temp.
TNHunter
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hm, how old is the tree? and where is it?
just going thru pics it kind of looks like Tanenashi. Is it pollinated? would help figure out if its PCA or possibly PVA or PVNA
It’s about 15’ tall and I’m guessing at least 12-15 years. I took a fruit from the tree but it’s still quite firm so I’m still waiting for it to get softer before cutting it up. Its fruits have a distinctive pointy end.
Past couple weeks got done trying Nikitas Gift, JT02 Mikkasu, Zima Khurma, Kassandra, Rosseyanka, Fire Crystal, Jiro, Great Wall, Hao River, Saiju, Gwang Yang, Sung Hui, and a few other large acorn shaped asians.
They all mostly taste the same to me (like an Asian persimmon), even the hybrids (minus the texture, gooey vs some hybrids more firm). American persimmons win for flavor for me all the way.
Still looking forward to trying other hybrids in future like Sestronka, Chuchupaka, etc. Cliff said Sestronka has more American flavor in it i think.
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