More color now on Dar Sofiyivky. I’m going to pick several to ripen them inside because the critters are starting to get to them.
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I moved both trees inside a south facing garage aisle last night. I plan to shuffle them in and out through the end of October depending on the daily weather.
The plastic sheet helps a great deal, as it did back in late March and April; it pushed up the temperature inside to the mid 70s even though it was only in the low to mid 50°F outside.
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I’m finding out that persimmons are easier for me to grow than apples. I currently have just 1 Fuyu tree (Jiro graft in the top). I like the taste and it ripens late enough for me to have some fresh fruit late in the year. I have eaten plenty of the native persimmons but I prefer the seedless Asian varieties. I just ordered a Dabeo Giant which I think is the same as Giant Fuyu but I’m not certain. I’m considering ordering 1 more variety.
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That doesnt look like the real journey. I remember journey being a long narrow fruit
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Curious if yours are seeded, and if so what their potential pollen parent.
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Beautiful DS fruits there’ Stan. How old and tall is the DS.? Is it inground?
Tony
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Where did you see journey fruit that was long and narrow?
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You know what I was actually thinking of Succulent, another early hybrid I tried at Englands Orchard. I double checked my pictures I could not find a photo of Journey. I probably do have a picture of it, but I plan on going to the tasting Monday and try to find it.
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big fan of my neighbors persimmon. they are nonastringent at that goopy but still holds together stage. the flavor is good but nothing life changing. nicer than some asian varieties. most have seeds so im not sure if it has both flowers or if theres a male somewhere. a different neighbor a mile or so away has chocolate persimmons
A few more persimmons from the week. Some hybrid seedlings I’ve grown out, both of which are good but aren’t really pushing the hybrid potential anywhere further than it already is. And the always excellent Prok.
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Haha we dont have deer here but there’s a feral population of monk parrots and they are loving my neighbors persimmon tree. I never see them around my house but theyre out there chirping away and chowing down
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Well, all my grafts have stopped growing. My first year tree that was stripped by caterpillars looks dormant. Fingers crossed on that one as I don’t want to have to start over. I’ll make a decision on the hybrid grafts next spring and am contemplating starting over on one of the top worked leaders as only one scion took and I now think I would rather an American there since I have rossy and Nikita on the other.
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I’ve consistently been pleasantly surprised at how hardy persimmon trees have been in general for me. My prok was grafted on a tiny rootstock then half it died back over winter but it pushed decent growth this year. It should be a lot more dominant next year.
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Have you tried Meader? Do you think it’s worth adding if I already have Prok? Or is there anything you find even superior than both?
I have Prok & Saijo (these were considered the kings a few years ago which is why I went with them). Now considering adding more. I’m a big fan of Hachiya’s almost artificial flavor, so looking to add that. And on the American persimmon side I saw a video of a Calfornia orchard (see video below) where the orchardist and the visitor are WOW’ed by Meader.
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My experience with Meader is disappointing. Only named variety I have tried. To me it is no different in taste from any wild tree I have tried. Blooms heavily but a light crop. I would say low parthenocarpic. An occasional seed. No male trees around that I know of. I plan to add a male branch in hopes of getting more fruit. I also plan to add Prok.
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What is the preffered method of grafting D. virginiana?
I have 3 established 7 year old trees of unknown variety that never bore any fruit (dropped at marble size last 2 years in a row)
I would like with at least one of the trees to completely drop the crown and bark graft a variety with male flowers onto it.
Is that possible at all with this species?
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I’m a big fan of cleft graft. Dropping fruit the first year or two of setting is not unusual. I wouldn’t suggest adding a male. You really don’t want more seeds in your fruit.
@AM246 Meader taste good to me, but there are bigger/better varieties. I’d suggest H-120 or Leahman’s Delight.
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Meader persimmon. About 1 1/2 inch diameter. Picked 10 so far. Maybe another 20 on tree. Tree about 1o years old. Bloom a lot but not many set.
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I have 3 american persimmons.. Prok, Barbaras Blush and H63A.
I am in southern TN and have a long hot season and persimmons grow very well here.. and mature quickly.
My H63A ripened first fruits in year 2 (Last year) and ripened many more this year.
My Prok ripened first fruits this year.. in its year 4.
Barbaras Blush ripened first fruits last year in year 3.. and many more this year.
I have heard others here say their Nikitas Gift tree dropped all fruit for 8-10 years.
My Nikitta Gift is ripening 4 fruits now.. not quite ripe yet but nice and orange… and it is in year 4 this year.
When it comes to flavor.. of the 3 Americans that I have…
H63A is the best
Barbaras Blush is a close second.
Prok is 3rd.
The flavor of all 3 is somewhat similar but not exactly the same.
The flavor intensity varies quite a bit with Prok being somewhat mild… and H63A being quite intense.
Prok taste very good to me… but if you compare it side by side with H63A… H63A is just so much more flavorful. It has an intense fruity flavor with a nice dose of richness too.
Prok left.. BB middle, H63A right.
H63As above.
My H63A flavor improved a lot this year in it’s year 3. Last year in year 2.. it was mostly a simple fruity flavor. One year later that fruity flavor intensified and some rich complex flavor came on.
Keep in mind that with my long hot season my flavor may be maturing faster than most.
TNHunter
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