I tried growing tomatoes for 3 years and gave up. This year seems to be a fluke. There have been couple of other years where I could have grown a few. My basis for comparison is growing tomatoes in Ohio. I am used to two tomato plants producing more than a family of six could eat.
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so Iām Dsb zone, zone 7a, and sunset 2.
are there any other classifications? and is there any way to stay using these when choosing trees and plants to put in? most places will simply use the USDA zone to label hardiness. @jcguarneri my local stations all show āinsufficient dataā, not sure if Iām using it correctly.
biggest thing though would be getting plant labels to include things like season length necessary, the zoog (sp) zone and sunset zones, as well as extreme high/low tolerance.
summer is 110F+ here, winter is -10F for at least a few days, every year with out fail. plus the summer drought and winter/spring deluge. high desert
tomatoes can do well here if started indoors very early or short season varieties, same with corn, melons, etc.
we grow apples, grapes and short season peppers really well though.
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Wow. Thanks. I did not realize we get more chill hours then I thought in spring months.
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That sounds like either the station is too new to have enough data for some of the summaries, or is one of the rainfall only stations. Occasionally, itās that the station was discontinued before the time period youāre interested in. Pick the stations with a ball symbol, not the raindrop. If you hover over a station in the list or on the map, it will tell you what it measures along with start and stop dates.
The other potential issue is if thereās a lot of missing data due to malfunctions, operator error, etc, during your period of interest. Usually, increasing the allowable number of missing days will at least get you a number.
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isnt koppen climate more inclusive of those sorts of factors? Im not well versed in it, but it seems a lot more nuanced if less focused on actual numerical rating
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I found this new NPR primer on the hardiness maps nicely laid out for beginners, ie itās an average, not an absolute limit for selecting plant varieties, and it gives you year by year data for your specific location.
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I saw that this morning! They do such a good job explaining what the map is good for and what it isnāt. I think if everyone on the forum read this, weād have a lot less confusion about hardiness zones.
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They should pin the thread for newcomers!
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