Plum bloom times

Mine are all blooming too, but not exactly at the same time, close though.I would add my wild strawberries started blooming too, but the hybrids, not yet. Elderberries are forming flower heads. as are my lilacs, not blooming yet.
My raspberries have not formed flowers yet. Although I have a new cultivar that is ahead on getting there.

Did you get any fruit off of them?

Some of them set fruit, but I didn’t get any- I had enough trouble getting any fruit when there was a whole tree full of it.

Hey @Auburn, how long did it take your Methley to bloom? I’m on 3rd year in ground, and still no blooms, while santa rosa, and greengage right next to it have bloomed and produced now for the 2nd year…

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My third year and finally some blooms and fruit-set with my methley. Middle TN.

I had just a few blooms the 2nd year and more the 3rd year. Late cold weather wiped out the bloom for both years so I didn’t get any fruit. I have grafted to other varieties since then and have only a small section of Methley remaining.

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I’m eager to get fruit from my 2019 grafts next year. Can somebody tell me if any of these bloom/fruit on previous year wood? Coe’s Golden drop, green gage, satsuma, orange red, dapple dandy?

Coe’s Golden Drop, Satsuma, El Dorado, Flavor King, Flavor Queen, Hollywood, Early Italian, French 707, various Mirabelles, all produced fruit for me the year following grafting. Dapple Dandy took two years and going into its fourth year has been a relatively shy bearer compared to those others.

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Can anyone compare relative bloom times of Flavor Supreme and Flavor King? I am in 7b and Flavor King was in full bloom 4 days ago already while Flavor Supreme looks like it will need at least 4 more days to open first flowers. Its the second year I am observing this. There is not a lot of overlap between their bloom times.

Can this be right? I am wondering if I got the varieties I ordered…
The trees are in their 4th season and did not fruit yet.

For me (9b) FS blooms ahead of FK.

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Isn’t Satsuma about the only J Plum with “pure” salicina heritage? Don’t most others have some Americana or Myrobolan in them?

Burbank is allegedly a pure J plum seedling.

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Most of the varieties common on the west coast are pure Japanese plum but in the rest of the country they are mostly hybrids. Santa Rosa, Elephant Heart, Laroda, etc etc etc are pure Japanese plums.

EDIT: no, see the following article…

This is interesting.

Genetic Relationships among Cultivated Diploid
Plums and Their Progenitors as Determined by
RAPD Markers

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Thank you @Stan . Not really what I wanted to hear but not too much of a surprise. Thats the next mislabeled tree…
Do you grow elephant heart? I am asking because my EH is exactly at the same stage as my “FS”. Does the bloom of EH overlap with your FS or FK?

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Thanks for posting that. I saw that article a long time ago, long enough ago that I forgot about it. It shows that even the California plums are largely hybrids. They are a bit more Japanese but not by a whole lot. The main source for this was Burbank who used several different species of plums in his breeding efforts.

Yes, Burbank used multiple species for his work on plum selection. For example:

Santa Rosa.—1906. A complex hybrid containing a mixture of Prunus triflora, P. Simonii, and P. americana, with the triflora characters predominating.

Beauty.—1911. “The product of a very complicated heredity including several species.”

Formosa (Wickson Challenge).—1907. A mixture of triflora species and several others.

Gaviota.—1900. Prunus triflora x P. americana.

Lieb.—1914. “Of complex heritage. Among its ancestors are the Burbank and the Satsuma. But there are numerous other strains represented in its heredity.”

P. triflora is the old name of P. salicina.

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EH blooms later than FK. The order is FS, FK, EH. The exact separation varies by the year, but the order is always the same.

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Satsuma started to bloom with Burbank right behind it. Santa Rosa is all but sleeping and Shiro is just starting to wake up. Geo Price and Flavor Queen appear to be my earliest blooming pluots

Mine are already past peak bloom… I hope I get a good fruit set. There seemed to be some bees doing their thing and we had some nice warm weather.