Prunus avium help

Hi Danny
You can graft green onto green now. I would not wait, but take Advantage of the season that is left in your case. 90s are not too high, simply water thoroughly your donor trees the night before so that your scions are more healthy, then as you cut them, immediately trim off the leafs just above each bud. Choose the most viable buds on the bud stick. Use scions with 2-3 buds only. Immediately throw your scions into a bucket of clean fresh ice water to preserve freshness until you graft. As you use each scion, dry excess water with a clean paper towel, wrap with parafilm and then graft it. Cover the whole graft with aluminum foil shiny side out!
Here is a response I sent to another member today:

The primary factors for a successful graft are:
#1: wood compatibility rootstock to scion
#2: Cambium match, if #1 satisfied then this is the #1.
#3: Callousing ambient temps: well above freezing but below tissue damage during the first three weeks when the graft union is usually fully calloused.
#4: Pressure on the graft union: Smaller diameter scions 1/8” to 1/4”and rootstock require much less pressure than those larger simply because you can close the gap between the two with less effort. I use plain old 1” wide plastic strips to wrap the graft union on the smaller diameter scions; whereas, on larger scions with stiffer wood, I follow the initial plastic wrap with something stronger such as electrical tape or a rubber band to close the cambium gap between scion and rootstock. Electrical tape directly onto the bark is to be avoided for all types of wood, too difficult to remove.
Related to this factor is unintentional girdling!
After the graft union heals you need to remove the pressure around the graft union so that its new bark can expand during the growing season. Failure to do this will most often result in a girdled graft union which will ultimately break off due to girdling! I have lost many otherwise good grafts by forgetting to remove the constrictive tapes!

Any one of the above can lead to failure.
I use the following temperature guide for the type of fruit I am grafting.
Best of luck, if you satisfy all of the above factors, your results will be consistently improved!
Dennis
Kent, wa
Callusing temperatures of Fruit and Nut trees:
Nectarines/Peaches – 18-26 deg C. ( 64.4 to 78.8F)

Apricots/Cherries – 20 deg C. ( 68F)

Plums – 16 deg C. ( 60.8 F)

Apples/Pears – 13-18 deg C. ( 55.4 to 64.4F)

Walnuts – 27 deg C. (80.6 F)

Grapes – 21-24 deg C. ( 69.8 to 75.2 F).

Figs - 23.9- 29.4 deg C. ( 75-85 F).
callus_graph.jpg

Callus graph showing optimal temperature range

Do not forget tissue damage for most temperate fruit will occur at temperatures over 30 deg C. (86 F)

So when your graft is in direct sunlight and you are over 70F highs, you should use aluminum foil shiny side out to shade the graft from any direct sun. Sun on a dark object such as electrical tape will fry the graft union before callousing can be completed.

Grafting at the time of year when the temperatures range night and day for at least 3 weeks of callousing will help you achieve the best results.

Temperatures either side of the optimum will also work, but the percentage take will be reduced.

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Thank you so much Dennis! I’m going to begin the process of prepping Lee for obtaining scions and will graft to the Adara that is growing on Methley. If I can preserve the cherry varieties on there through the year, I can graft new Adara cuttings onto other trees in the fall-spring.
Danny

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You are welcome,
After thinking about your climate more, how long would you need to wait to see the daily highs drop below 85F? I am guessing from your Rio grade airport data that it may do so by mid Sep. if that’s the case you may have a better take rate by waiting to see when you have more favorable ambient conditions. For me here late August is usually when I quit grafting, but my hunch is that your longer growing season may benefit you to wait a bit and watch the 10 day forecast.
Dennis

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I will probably try some grafts now and store some scions in the fridge just in case the tree ends up losing its battle before September. I hope it will recover as the hottest part of the year begins to phase out, but time will tell. I did lots of grafts in Dec/Jan that took, so my guess is that trees can be grafted from Fall-Spring here since we have mild winters.
Danny

Good plan!


The wilting has begun… whether this is just the next step in the tree dying or if I accelerated/caused it by the carving is up for debate. I’m watering the tree with a slow, but steady amount of water to really soak the ground to see if that helps (since we are in a drought). Wilting is on half of the tree, and I think it’s the side with most of the dying tissue. I did notice some clear tree sap emerging from some of the carvings I made when removing dead lenticels. No amber colored sap, so maybe it isn’t an infection after all. I guess I will have to take scions today after all.
Danny

Update: No improvement on the wilting leaves, so I took scions of each variety and wrapped in parafilm. I also grafted one bud of each variety onto Adara. I ran out of daylight before I got to try other grafts, but I hope to graft scions tomorrow. We’ll see what the future holds. I appreciate everyone’s feedback. For now, Adara seems to be my best bet to growing Sweet Cherries.


Danny

Any update on the cherry issue? And have you collected any improved capulin cherry cultivars?

I believe the cause of the decline and ultimate death of the tree to be a one-two punch. In 2023, I applied a mix of GardenPhos with PentraBark, but I think I didn’t mix the two correctly and it damaged the bark/cambium of the tree (Lee on Mahaleb with other varieties grafted onto Lee’s branches). That is when I took the scions. Afterwards, I cut the tree down below the graft to beat the decline. It show up many shoots and I grafted cherries onto it and they survived and were growing until around November of last year. We got 10’ of rain within a week and that killed the rootstock via root rot. I also lost some Peaches from big box stores from the same issue. I will be experimenting with other rootstocks this growing season and am still on the hunt for Adara to use as a rootstock or interstem.

I found two Capulin Cherry trees at a Lowe’s in Las Vegas during a roadtrip and brought them home. They were so burnt and looked horrible, but they let me have them half off so I couldn’t say no. They improved over the next month and a half, but ultimately succumbed to root rot. I overwatered them so it was my fault. I may try grafting Capulin onto Prunus serotina. I attempted a summer graft and it took until the Serotina fell and broke the healing graft (which already had leaves budding out).

Danny

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Keep trying, it’s interesting! I’ve killed plenty of plants trying out things, never stopped me. Try some of the semi-tropical prunus,/laurel cherry’s/, etc. You’re far south enough. :+1:

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I was growing the Carolina Cherry Laurel, but it died via root rot. It seems like something may be poking out from the roots, so I will keep an eye on it. I do want to try growing other Prunus species for sure. I’ve killed so many plants, but it’s worth it, so to speak, as I’ve learned how to better adapt plants to growing in my region.

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