no, it comes up when the leaves are starting to yellow. By mid-June or so, the seedheads are mature (at least here) Im not sure about seed grown plants, but divisions flower and set seed after 2 or 3 years
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Donāt know how I could be harmed since I own 220 acres of woodland that is well stocked with leeks and have no desire or need to dig leeks on state land. I am pretty sure that there are no NY laws regarding leeks on private property. There could be though since the state is controlled by wackoās in NY city and Albany.
It is not unusual for local volunteer fire companyās or ambulanceās to have ham and leek dinners as a fund raiser in Western NY.
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The suggestion was that because I donāt KNOW the local law and didnāt find you a link to an authoritative internet source, I should not have warned you that there might be an issue. The assumption seemed to be that you couldnāt do your own research given my non-authoritative caution. The inference was that no information from me would have been better than imperfect information.
No worries. Itās not worth further discussion.
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Ok here are about 1 dozen ramps I found in the back of the crisper draw from last year I failed to plant.
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looks like theyāre rarinā to go!
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Most of the ones I see in ground here are the ones I transplanted. I havenāt ever seen flower and leaf together. Who knows what I was mixing them up with, but I know it was still relatively cool out when I saw the flowers. Hopefully Iāll see more this year. There are assorted critters in the area which may be helping to limit exposure of both leaves and flowers. I see that it is the bulb that maximizes after about 7 years, not the seeds. iām glad., i want my little patches to grow.
For those struggling to transplant, If the rootlets are attached, as long as you have the bottom half of the bulb and plant it in places they like to grow, it should be easy. Iāve even left bulbs in my refrigerator in water for a year and still been able to grow them. They seem to love it under maple trees (or where the leaves collect), and they allegedly will grow anywhere hostas are thriving. Most of my hostas happen to be under my maple trees, so I cannot speak to them separately.
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Lots of roots and even some new growth. Iād say itās well worth putting those puppies in the ground and see what comes up.
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I will be. Just need to prep an area. There going to need a bit of extra protection.
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Hereās my patch. You can see the seedlings coming up. They look the same, just miniature. Also, I noticed that Id misspoken about them having two leaves. It appears more mature clumps have 3 leaves per bulb. I have wild ginger , mayapple, maidenhair fern, trillium, and jack in the pulpit growing in the same ābedā
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Thanks. I appreciate the pics of the seedlings.
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Where did you get initial Wild Bear Garlic, Allium ursinum seed or bulbs?
I bought a single plant in a pot and planted it right away, March 10, according to my notes. Iāve tried transplanting plants in mid April and bulbs in October; both ways work. Seeds will germinate the following spring if planted soon after harvest. Iāve planted last yearās seeds in the spring, but they didnāt germinate.
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Thanks for mentioning this! Iām pretty sure burdickii must be what i have on my property. I was wondering why online photos of ramps always appear to have much broader leaves in comparison.
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so if you wanted to start a patch, would you go bulbs/plants or seeds?
I would do both.
The ramps I planted last year came back this year so I am happy with those results. But seeds on amazon are only $5 Amazon.com : Ramp, Wild Leek Seeds (Allium Tricoccum) Perennial (50 Seeds) Country Creek Acres : Patio, Lawn & Garden
I waste more then that at 7-11
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I went with a combination of bulbs and seeds. The seeds will take a while to catch up, but itāll add a little diversity to the genetics.
In my opinion, there is not a lot of value in planting them with the greens still on. Turn that part into pesto. You may minimize whatever potential you have of adding somehting extra to the plot by chopping the greens off too. some sources look pretty bad by the time they make it to you. I can buy local ones at a couple farm stands here, but they donāt fare well in the sun.
Meanwhile, I have a bucket of bulbs I intended to eat or plant still in my fridge. They started out with water that I topped off a time or two, but it is long gone. I found them last week and most are still nive and solid and several were pushing flowers and leaves. I need to get them into a good spot to salvage whatever will come back next year soon. They spent two summers in the fridge.
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How is it possible to be ramp season in north Carolina? My ramps where baked 2 months ago.
Maybe itās another species also called ramps locally. All I know is I need some of those heat tollerant genetic to add to my patch.
Mark out some of the ones you plant and send me in the fall. ok?
Edit: Oh, just re read your post and the context set in. The ramps I planted I think spent maybe nearly that long in the fridge too.
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Yeah, I wish I was still seeing them popping this late. I am in the mountains, and I think they were up a bit later than usual this year, but not July late. But there are other alliums about thatāll do in a pinch and I pulled the first of my garlic about ten days ago. I failed to collect most of the scapes, so I can still gather the last of those. I tend to munch one wandering the yard, talk about fire breath. LOL
If seeds are used, keep in mind that they should be planted now to sprout next spring, when they will produce just tiny plants with a single leaf. The following year they will become normal plants that might flower but will still be small. This was my experience with Wild (Bear) Garlic (Allium ursinum), which is very similar to Ramps. According to online info, Ramps may take 7 to 10 years to reach a harvestable size from seed planting.
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