YES Japanese Really are changing the game
I hope they do this with selective breeding
At least I know many will.
Very Interesting how they can Predict How much acid will be in a cross, but looking at the Halotype
Even before a apple exist , by looking at the genome or what ever they do.
You nailed it. @/Francis_Eric
Probably we should all invest in the companies making such technologyā¦for itās a big wave thatās comingā¦just like analyzing human DNA to see who your ancestors are, etc. etc.
Ha ha HA
Hopefully The algorithm for the dating site
doesnāt predict My Offspring to be Failures before they are even born
Since I am so great, and they do not want the
rebel in me or my offspring!
On a side Note I have always looked younger then I have been
Now getting older I can say Hey I am sweet like a nice dried Date,
but thatās Not smooth though like Clint Eastwood. (haha not on any date site hahaha)
Iām a Golden One though
I loved these singers when I was growing up yo doesnāt like that song
heard it through the grapevine.
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Um, yeah. And if you knew the kid was going to be puny and have all kinds of
troublesā¦how many would then opt for killing it before it was born?
Then, you mention datingā¦ āhey sweetie, can I see your DNA profile before we hook up?ā
Itās funny if it wasnāt life in the 2020ās.
So, anyhow, I can see how such a test could be useful (if it were cheap enough) before spending several years for fruit from a bunch of trees that might be ālosersā.
So, the Japanese are ahead of the U.S. on this. And we donāt know if China is into that or not.
@BlueBerry
I dont disagree though my aronia are one of the worlds healthiest berries they are also one of the worlds hardest berries to sell. The tannons are very high as well in aronia. Could we breed the tannons out? Not at this time with aronia they are sterile. Ironically in a strange twist frequently mixed berry juices have aronia and apple in it. Apples for the taste and aronia for the nutrients. Thankfully i have only a couple of acres of aronia. Dont go all in with red fleshed apples is what im getting at. Red cider is a nice novelty but the market is limited just like aronias.
I bet the aronia is for the color. I donāt think they care too much about the nutrients that donāt show up on the label.
This year I had two of those red apples, the Calypso and the Odysey and they seemed sour, but good to eat, also one of the two was quite early
Iāve made 40-something red fleshed grafts this springā¦not a single one of the Redloves.
I have 5 Odysso, and Iāll see if second year fruit is any improvement.
I get a chuckle from some of your posts in this thread. I did a search because I have some Redlove apples, and I picked one yesterday, was trying to see how premature I probably was in picking. I probably have a month to go.
I donāt generally like to eat super tart apples either. I got an Era last year or the year before, that tasted nice for a bite or two, but I agree it is too sour for a dessert apple.
Lemons are sour. Lemonade is delicious. I wonder if some sweetened Redlove juice might be a nice application 
I agree, Hidden Rose is by far the best tasting red-fleshed non-club apple that Iāve tried and the only one Iām confident I would rate highly even with a blindfold on. Lucy Glo is even better.
The Redlove apples are beautiful. They are also precocious and seem to flower on vertical wood and where there werenāt obvious flower buds to my poorly trained eye. Thatās cool
My 2 Redlove Odysso fruits that made it to picking this yearā¦in Augustā¦
were NOT what Iād call dessert apples. (All apples early this yearā¦Fuji and Braeburn are ripe enough to pick.)
Red Delicious, Fuji, Honeycrispā¦those
are dessert apples. Odysso probably, like the other Redloves, could make jelly
without adding pectin/sure-jell. And probably be good in a cider blend.
I think Odysso pollinated some of my Fujiā¦if any of the seedlings Iāll grow next year
prove to be red fleshed, then I might possibly end up with a RED fleshed apple I could LOVE!
like the U of SK cherries, most currants and elder. they really shine when processed. im going to use mine in pies, wine, juice and sauce. i dont see a sour apple as a bad thing.
If the objective of Lubera is a red fleshed apple that eats like a Honeycrisp or Galaā¦thereās a long journey still to be taken. Keep us posted on your harvest experiences. Interesting.
Trueā¦I like a winesp for instanceā¦so sour doesnāt have to mean bad. But, for those that buy the offerings of Kroger, and all the other large grocers, Gala, RD, YD, Fuji, Honeycrisp eaters arenāt going to come back for seconds after eating a Red Love.
Lucy Glo, which you can now buy for home orchard, has much better texture than Gala and much better flavor than Honeycrisp. Overall a way better dessert apple than either of them, entirely independent of appearance.