Rubinella Apple. Descendant of Rubinette

Does anyone here have experience eating or growing Rubinella? How long has it been around? Does it really taste like mango?

From the breeders website. Bay oz.

Apple ‘Rubinella®’ – aromatic just like ‘Rubinette®’, stores until June
There are apple varieties offering unequaled opportunities. The aromatic variety ‘Rafzubin’, better known as ‘Rubinette®’, is without any doubt one of them. It keeps an important position in the assortment of many dirtect sellers. And still ‘Rubinette®’ has one deciding disadvantage: Its fruit flesh softens very fast. Therefore, from January on, its fruits can rarely be sold. Also the best storage does not provide a solution: Even if the fruits have been stored under ULO conditions, the fruits of ‘Rubinette®’ variety soften quite fast after removal of the storage. And soft fruits nowadays do not sell well.
‘Rubinella®’ will find a remedy: It is highly aromatic, with firm fruit flesh and stores well. Not surprising: ‘Rubinette®’ is its maternal variety. The good storability goes back to its paternal variety, the apple variety ‘Pomona’.

The advantages of the aromatic variety ‘Rubinella®’:
perfect colouration
very firm, juicy fruits
best storability
Fruit flesh keeps firm until June, even under normal cold storage conditions
highly aromatic, slightly reminding of mango
late picking time (similar to ‘Braeburn’ or shortly thereafter)
no tendency to alternate bearing
easy to grow, uncomplicated tree

PORTRAIT of ‘Rubinella®’
Parentage: ‘Rubinette®’ × ‘Pomona’
Breeder: Dr. Michael Neumüller, Bavarian Centre of Pomology and Fruit Breeding, Hallbergmoos, Germany. Plant variety rights are applied for this variety under the designation ‘Bay 4029’.
Tree: Medium growth, good branching. Compound spurs of aged trees should be deleted.
Yield: High and very regular, no alternate bearing. Fruit thinning required.
Flower: Diploid. Flowering time medium late.
Fruit: Picking time similar to ‘Braeburn’. Do not harvest too early, the shelf life does not suffer. Ready for consumption from October. Fruit size medium, oblong fruits. Red overcolour (70 %) with light lenticells. Creamy white fruit flesh, very firm (9.5 kg/cm²). Low titratable acid content (3.5-5.3 g/l). Very high soluble solids content (14-17 % Brix). Highly aromatic (with a slight mango aroma). Full aroma development on ageing from December.
Storage:
Cold storage: temperature: 1.5-2 °C. Stores until June.
CA storage: prolongs storability until September of the following year.
Diseases: moderate susceptibility to apple scab (similar to ‘Elstar’). Overall robust, proven in organic cultivation.
Rating: The perfect follow-up variety for the marketing of ‘Rubinette®’.

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I’ve never heard of it before, but I’m pretty sure they’re saying the aroma is kind of mango-like.

The name makes me think, “Isn’t there a childhood vaccine for that?” I would have gone with RubiCrisp™ (even though it doesn’t involve Honeycrisp) or Rubimona.™

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P1. You want to try a Rubinella?!

P2. No thanks, i already got that vaccine.

P1. Wait what no its a new apple variety i planted.

P2. Sorry i don’t eat GMOs.

Nit the best marketing strategy huh. Maybe different in europe though idk. I also think the euro branding is a bit more old school oriented. Usa has more of that cereal brand naming method. Shakala blast, wonderstar crunch, berry boom etc. Choco champion. Haha

If you translated pluot names into European languages, nobody would buy them here. They don’t sound as cheap or something bogus you get at a carnival or laughable when they’re in English/different language.
It seems that what goes here the best is either people’s names or names derived from visual qualities.

As for this particular name, most who are aware of the disease don’t mix “rubella” (rubeola in Slavic languages) and Rubinella. Plus Rubin (meaning “ruby”) and other apples with similar names are very popular and create an expectation of high quality.

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I don’t need yet another apple that needs storage to develop the flavor they are marketing it for.

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It seems like it has just been released. I found mentions on Czecho-slovak forums from this spring. Nobody has tasted it nor is it on nurseries’ offers, yet. Unless that mango flavour is really pronounced, they are going to have a hard time marketing against the Czech bred Rubinola.

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I have a strong interest in storing apples over winter and for that if as it is reported with rubinella i am interested to have some trees of it.

Pomiferous reports rubinola as:
“Cold Storage: Keeps up to two months but becomes soft quickly.”

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Me, too. I’ve put in on my watch list. I like that you don’t have to pick it too early for it to store well. (We seem to be unable to hit the right time these few years, because you either pick unripe or you’re too late…)

I mentioned Rubinola, because it is established on the market and popular (for other reasons) and their marketing people will have fun even with SEO.

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Are there apples that ripen after the beginning of July that don’t store for two months? I’m exaggerating, but not by much.

Also, unless I’m missing something, they don’t say anywhere they taste like mango. They say they smell a little like mango. “Highly aromatic (with a slight mango aroma). Full aroma development on ageing from December.”

There are plenty of apples that do not store well. Some Oct-Nov types.

Sure are. But I wouldn’t consider one that’s turning to mush around the time GoldRush is ready to harvest as worth noting for its “storage capabilities.”

Are you mixing up the two? Or what exactly are you responding to? If your not interested why continue commenting on the thread?

What you are missing, is that I read the page in the original (German). While the letters (Aroma) are the same as in English, their meaning is not quite:

"Aro·ma

/Aróma/

Substantiv, Neutrum [das]

angenehmer, stärker ausgeprägter Geschmack und/oder würziger Duft; kräftiger, intensiver [Wohl]geruch

“ein starkes, kräftiges, volles Aroma”

aromatisches Mittel, aromatische Essenz für Lebensmittel, Speisen

“natürliche, künstliche Aromen”"

Unless they make an explicit distinction betwen “smell” and “taste” elsewhere, it is implied that “Aroma” refers to any “Geschmack”(taste) that is more complex than sweet/sour/salty.

Meanwhile, other German sites like this one write about the taste of mangos explicitly, as in “leichter Mangogeschmack”.

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It is funny. I find myself learning other languages some by reading their scientific papers on apples. I found I could muddle through Romanian reports on descriptions. But no doubt I missed parts in the translation.

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That is always more likely than not the case for everyone. Especially, when it comes to homonyms or shared roots of words. In Slavic languages, we don’t even have to look at words we borrowed from Latin. We often get cocky and assume to understand and then we get to things like these:

  • in Slovak zavše=sometimes, čerstvý=fresh

  • in Polish zawsze=always, czerstwy=stale

(we even pronounce them the same)

Apply to a hypothetical grafting situation… :rofl:

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Oh boy. Idiosyncrasies are great!

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