Anybody have any experience with a Tillamook Goumi? I ordered one a long with a sweet scarlet from OGW. The description said large fruit and good flavor. It should flower next year, but I’m looking for opinions if you’ve grown and or tried the fruit.
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Is that a new named variety? What I’m asking has carmine been around a while?
Great to hear it straight from the person who named ‘Carmine’ that it is the same clone as what had already been circulated under the name ‘Tillamook’.
I know this post is older, but there wasn’t much response so I’ll add my experience. I purchased my ‘Tillamook’ as ‘Carmine’ and it has been producing for a few years now. I agree that it is a high quality clone with above average fruit size and great flavor. I would highly recommend it as one of the best clones for anyone looking to plant a goumi.
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I have a Red Gem and Sweet Scarlet. I am trying to hunt down Tillamook/Carmine now. Does anyone have Raintree select and compared it?
If anyone is reading this and would like to possibly trade, I made a trade post a little bit ago with all the varieties I have
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Im very curious about this Carmine is the same as Tillamook claim…Burnt Ridge has Carmine listed as a 15’ tall growing shrub. One Green World and Whitman Farms has Tillamook as 5-6’. How can these be the same cultivar?
Nurseries often list different sizes for the same plants. No way does ‘Tillamook’ max out at 5-6’ tall. That’s just a number someone made up and then others repeated. Burnt Ridge is probably the only one that actually used a height that was based off of their actual experience.
Keep in mind that some nurseries also list the height that they think will appeal more to people even if that height is only maintainable with pruning.
Edit: I just looked at One Green World’s listing for ‘Tillamook’ and they have conflicting information with themself. In one spot they say it grows 5-6’ tall and in another spot they say 6-8’ tall. My guess is they realized it was getting taller than they originally thought so added a taller height guess, but forgot to remove the original height description. Probably in a few years they’ll update it as their mother plant continues to teach them.
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How can these be the same cultivar?
When it’s a little known cultivar I tend to assume the answer is either “that’s what the person who sold it to us said and we have no idea” or “the one we planted out by the barn ten years ago is that tall in our microclimate and soil and there’s no big study so we’re rolling with that.”
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Lol… I just looked at the other goumis listed on One Green World, and they have the 5-6’ tall description for all of them. They’re due for an update. haha
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Tillamook/Carmine. My early opinion is that it can easily be a 15’ tree.
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I have red gem and sweet scarlet from OGW… and have added a few grafts of carmine to those original bushes.
I prefer carmine of the 3… simply because of fruit size.
They all taste very similar to me but carmine is 2-3X the size of the others.
I pruned my two bushes back to around 6 ft tall late winter… they have put on 3-4 ft of growth this season.
If I did not prune mine early each spring … no doubt they would get 12 ft tall or more easily.
Bottom left… I have an air layer going on one of the carmine grafts. I am going to start carmine in my new orchard… new home site.
TNHunter
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