Ireland has a long season doesn’t it at least it is what I believe from a recipe TV show?
IS this about right?
https://www.climatestotravel.com/climate/ireland/dublin
Climates Mild I wonder if a Persimmon would work
I think that could be trained small, and you only need one for seedless fruit.
I saw on Plants for a Future (pfaf.org) that In England Persimmon didn’t ripen
but maybe some of the Early ones
(can also pick hard , and store in fridge in ziplock for a few months to ripen)
I have around 25 honeyberry cuttings going right now.
Black or Red rasps? In either case prepare to have gazillions of baby plants… you may want to start selling or giving away in a couple of years.
I would not plant them near vegetable gardens… they wander way too easily. Keep them separate on the edge of the lot as best you can.
Thanks for the recommendation of persimmon, it’s something to think about. I’ve a feeling our summer would not be hot enough for it though. However, my partner loves them, he’s from France and they grow them in his hometown!
I did not think about that with raspberries. They’re red, Glen Ample is the name. I ordered them because they’re supposed to have an upright habit.
The honeyberries we love, and they’re relatively unknown here still, so I hope to grow more. Most of mine are Eastern European varieties. Do you find that any particular variety grows better from cuttings? Are yours hardwood?
Raspberries for the most part love to wander thru their roots. Good thing is very easy propagation…but bad thing is that you dont want them in your garden…they need their own area to be managed.
I am in my first year of haskaps…mine are all hardwood cuttings… i dont really know enough to tell you anything about them. I have mine rooting in a cold basement…small buds are forming… im hoping that they root and stay dormant.
My red raspberries are Heritage… and they send out root shoots vigorously… I started with 3 a couple years ago and have 30+ now.
Very easy to propigate and spread around and I like that… but best if you have them in a bed that you can (for example) mow around… to keep the root shoots under control.
The ones that root shoot in my beds… I leave if I need them in that spot… or dig out and pot… pergaps to give to friends or family… or move them to a new location at my place. The ones that come up outside the bed… the mower takes care of.
The vid above shows how to trellis and prune red rasberry… they have them planted in long rows… that they mow around… and notice how vigorously they have grown… before they pruned.
Highly recommend raspberries… but there has to be a way to control spreading especially of reds.
I’ll be interested to read of your success
–the hard cuttings
(–my soft cuttings didn’t live)
Good to have a perspective from the other side of the pond.
This young lady is over seas… and grows stuff including raspberries and strawberries in her allotment… definately not impossible… she does it. Perhaps her varieties are not so agressive… you might check her vids out.
Love the way she talks…
Welcome Claire! This thread on haskaps is long, but you’ll find some useful information there.
Leningradsky Velikan and Wojtec are two you might be able to get ahold of over there that are hard to find in the US.
What is an allotment
Welcom to the forum
Thanks for the videos, very informative! Looks like I’ll have to put a bit of thought into how I plan and layout a raspberry bed.
@disc4tw thank you, I will read through those. It’s great to find some experience of honeyberries, as I don’t know anyone here who grows them.
@ggrindle Allotments are pieces of land owned by the local authorities, and divided into plots that are rented out to residents to grow vegetables. Some private landowners do it too. There are long waiting lists for a plot however, and I had been waiting five years.
You are welcome! There are a few members here who are very passionate about growing honeyberries. I’m just starting myself, and relying on the collective knowledge base to pick good varieties.
How long will you be able to lease your allotment? Is it a set time period or can you extend it if you choose to?
Once a plot has been assigned to you, you get to rent it year on year indefinitely, unless you aren’t cultivating it, in which case they can assign it to someone else.
Wow
Congratulations! Now comes the work and the fun
Yeah those temps are supper low does the allotment allow a high Tunnel to increase heat?
would having metal frame & plastic over the tree be allowed could be done cheaply ?
You could use a old Trampoline , and use that metal to make hoops .
what I’ am about to suggest some people have more knowledge here’
but some use dark solid rocks (not lava rocks) to gather heat under tree’s
Lava rocks are too porous from what I understand ,
and do not radiate towards the tree’s environment.
(on a News T.V show date line or something)
In England Some (dentist) American grew Pinot Noir for Sparkling Wine (Champagne)
Since the 90’s , and started a Industry in Gloomy England
Of coarse Still wine has less acid so these grape to not ripen fully ,
but are acidic for the style of sparkling wine.
To be Honest I am not very good with the Climates of different Places, and the Cultivars
but others here might have low temps that can advise you on some fruit tree’s (or not)?
https://www.climatestotravel.com/climate/ireland/dublin
What US suppliers have the posts with holes that they use here? I planned on getting plain t-posts, but would love the holes for running wire.
@franc1969 … not sure where you could get post just like those… think he was in Maine.
I have some smaller raspberry beds… just started last spring… this one is like 6-8 ft long and I used u-post and wire. I have 4 beds now like this made with u-post and wire… all are working fine.
The canes are not real thick yet… but they will multiply this year for sure.
I have found that upost work fine for smaller beds. Plenty of tension to hold up raspberry canes. I have one wire at 24 inch and another at 48.
Those are ohio treasure blacks… and a couple of heritage reds.
The upost do have holes you can run your wires thru.
i plan to do this to my 4’x 8ft Nelson blackberry bed. them suckers have some wicked thorns. found a blog from a guy in N.H that grows Natchez and triple crown in our z4 by laying the primocanes on the groud in oct and covering with straw, mulch then snow. i already do this with my dewberry except dewberry has thorns. these dont and are much more productive than my dewberry or Nelsons. also semi trailing so shouldnt be hard to cover. im psyched and so is my wife who tried blackberries from my Nelsons for the 1st time last year and is hooked! got 2 of each coming next spring. if they work out i may get rid of Nelsons completely.
