Tropical from Kenya

always nice to see fruits-- which you wouldn’t expect to be the ‘specialty’ of a country- to be exported from such a country. Makes me happy, in fact.

the walmart-brand sells generic pineapple juice typically from Philippines, Thailand, and Costa rica, which is not surprising, but have never seen it being exported from Kenya. Below was actually a 100% juice blend from Thailand pineapples and Kenya pineapples(decal label visible at the top of photo). Just tried it and it is just as good as any other :slight_smile:


Mangos from Kenya are awesome. You can find them for sale in Europe and the Middle East, but I’ve never seen them in the US.

And these folks sell dried jackfruit and other tropical fruits sourced from Africa -


that is so cool @castanea ! The africans are growing them but for some reason it is me “beaming with pride”. Have also had belgian chocolate with cacao from africa, which is so awesome.

south africa also just started exporting lychees to usa(blurry picture below), while honduras now already exporting rambutan. The price of rambutan, mangos and lychee have been slashed almost 50% the past 15 years due to the diversity of sources, and the sources’ trees getting bigger.
the first mexican/latin american/african farm that exports pili nuts, sweet sop, and longkong will be my next bff’s :slight_smile:


below is a better pic of south african lychee and honduran rambutan


Yes we get them in France, since we are so close to Africa.

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I think it’s similar to the inexpensive central and south American watermelon, raspberries blueberries, tomatoes, and of course mangoes, papaya, guava, that the convoys of giant trucks bring to the United States courtesy of NAFTA. We truly can thank Jesus
(heh-soos) for our cheap, tasty produce!

Globalization is not necessarily good for local farmers, but it certainly brings fresh produce cheaply year-round to the US and EU consumers. When I was visiting my native Poland in 2018, I found even herbs and greens from parts of Africa, much less tropical fruit.

Besides importing produce, big Agro businesses lobby governments to import humans . I know that Spain gave worker visas to 40,000 Africans.They work in dire conditions (akin to than the undocumented South Americans in the United States)

The nutritional value of European produce is questionable, because they grow produce under cover of polyethylene greenhouses, (actually designed to lower the amount of sunlight and retain the humidity/conserve water).
These laborers have to toil in extremely humid conditions. Especially for women, the conditions are unacceptable. For example, one of the criteria that’s paying uses in order to give a temporary worker visa the women from morocco, is that they document that they have young children in Africa, as a form of collateral that they will not become refugees, but will return back to the children

The environmental impact of covering seemingly the whole southern Spain in plastic has to be problematic. Below is a picture of what much of Andalusia (southern Spain) looks like.
The summer before Covid I took my 12&9 YO children to re-create a fantastic trip of my privileged youth. In 1995, my parents paid for my sister and my 23-year-old-self to travel from Brussels, through the French Riviera, along the coast of Spain all the way to Malaga in Andalusia. It was an amazing trip, and the countryside in Andalusia was pristine, though so barren that it conjured a lunar landscape in places.
When I returned with my children and drove from Barcelona to Andalusia in 2019, I could not recognize the place: along both sides of the road spanned silver waves on plastic oceans of small greenhouse farms, gaunt faces of overworked workers poking out. There were a couple abandoned farms with shreds of plastic sheeting hanging on rusty skeleton frames - waving in the mistral. image|690x821


Here is an article, from which I took the aerial picture. Incidentally, when I used Google Maps Before my 2019 trip to make reservations at campgrounds along my trajectory, I was confused by the satellite pictures in Google Maps. It did not even look like the earth. From outer space it look like rice paddies with glistening water causing refraction. I only recognized what the white Sea of plastic really was on the ground. I predict that the nutritional value of European produce is not what it used to be, because according to some of the workers I talked to, they grow three vegetables harvests under those plastic sheets each year. How much can the soil support? How much longer can the planet tolerate this?


It’s funny to think that the molecules of juice in that plastic jug are more traveled than most Americans will be in their lifetime. (Or Kenyans)

Unfortunately that’s quite a carbon footprint there.

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All true!

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