Tropical fruits on the east coast

Trimmed the pigeon peas and oranges too. Gonna effect my harvest this year (at least for the pigeon peas) but I was probably gonna have to trim the afterwards when the storm bent them.

Only good thing about having to putting everything in the barn is I get to take some inventory.


My pouteria salicifolia (which I’ve been calling a Willow Sapote in my head) has grown about 2 inches since I got it.


Strangler Fig (ficus aurea) growing fine without a host. Not sure if I need to plant it with a tree or if they will grown free standing. Was also wondering if the wasp that pollinates them would pollinate a culinary fig, but thats a thought for another day.


About 3 inches of new growth on my Ross Sapote (Pouteria sp.). It was stunted for about 2 months after I got it, and then took off in August/September.


A bunch of volunteer ground cherries popping up. I wonder if they’ve crossed pollinated or if the original genetics weren’t vary stable, because these are much taller then the parent. The parent was only an inch or two on the ground and was basically a ground cover. These are more upright and larger leaves.

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Jealous! I’ve never seen tea plants at Lowe’s. Are they named varieties?

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Any idea what species? Doesn’t look like pruinosa to me, at least.

A few days ago around Milton time we had some pretty strong wind at night so I closed the greenhouse doors and windows. Just in case it got gusty at night and forgot to open it again in the morning. Going to have to do some surgery on my Dragonfruit haha burned her pretty good

Cape gooseberry and Okinawa spinach took this raised bed tho haha

I saw a thread y’all were talking about some worms in them, I have some small black flies that seem to eat tiny holes in the leaves. A bit worried it’s the same thing, I guess I’ll find out as fruits start to ripen

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They didn’t have a name on the pot, but I’m sure its cutting grown. The company that supplies the central and south Florida Lowe’s tropical(ish) plants has such a high volume that are very consistently the same that there is very little chance its seed grown.

Should be Physalis grisea or possibly Physalis minima. I’ve been under the impression that the mother plant was grisea since it didn’t look like minima, but the flavor never quite matched what was described. Looks different than the original, which was really low to the ground.

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Pruned the Sabara a few months ago and stuck the cuttings in peat with a ziplock bag for humidity. To my shock they all actually rooted. Should I separate them sooner or later?

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Depends on the space you have, but I’d probably wait till the tail end of winter/start of spring. Its unlikely that they’ll crowd each other out over winter and it’ll save space. I don’t think they are vigorous root growers that they’ll rootbound themselves over 3 or 4 months.

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Last batch of guavas for the year, good sized ones too.

@Gkight from what I’ve read, it’s likely the seeds you got are clones of what I have. Seems this subspecies produces apomitic seed.

I’ve seen a decent amount of variation in fruit size and firmness, but best I can tell that’s more weather related then anything.

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My cattley has new flower buds coming out right now :man_shrugging:t2:

Those seeds you gave me are thriving. Need to up pot some of them. Plant to plant a couple out in spring to see how they manage.

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Mango steady pushing new growth, so happy that the limb which the two new branches broke off are pushing more out to replace them from lower nodes.
Babaco papaya looks like it’s going to hold some full blooms, super pumped.
Starfruit is super confused as to what time of year it is, covered in blooms!

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Arctic Frost satsuma saved its life. This thing was delicious, just a shy bearer and finally produced its first fruits (5) was planning to graft over it. But it doesn’t require protection so it survives along with now the fruit being really good

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My satsumas are a little behind yours.


Clementines are very close though

And Thomasville is just starting to color up. I didn’t expect color on them for another month, so this is a welcome surprise.

Focus is off in some of these. I need to get a new phone…

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Looking great! That’s my only variety ready, some kumquats also would be good to go but I like to let them sweeten up more.

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Heading into November, probably a good time to do a tropical seedling update.


After the hurricane, all my seedlings had to go into the sun after being in darkness for a week as I reset the greenhouse. All my eugenia look like this because of it. Burnt red tips and leaves falling off. They are bouncing back but it was a definite setback.


Similarly, my sourplums (Ximena Caffra) leaves turned red in the sun. They also don’t like the rain too much (at least in these pots). They are slowly greening back up and look healthy otherwise.


Theres a theme here, as my Abiu has some sun damage also. Which is strange because it was in full sun before, but the cloudless days eventually got it too hot. Back into the tinted greenhouse it has gone. My other abiu is just a stick. I’m not sure what happened to it. The stick still has some green though, holding out that its still alive.


Cinnamon Apple (Pouteria Glomerata/hypoglauca) are both growing well. My 3rd one never sprouted and I looked through its pot and couldn’t find its giant seed, so I guess it rotted away? They took a bit of sun damage, but they put out flushes pretty quickly. Probably one of the faster plants I have growing.


The opposite of fast is my gamboge (Garcinia xanthochymus) on the left, which hasn’t grow at all since I got it in spring. In the middle is my manilla tamarind, which has grown to be about 2 feet tall, needs to be uppoted and stacked. And the other 2 are longans. I had mixed success with the seeds sprouting (I had bought the fruit) but the ones that have had done really well.

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Many varieties of Loquats can survive Raleigh NC’s climate, it’s only a matter of, can they fruit in such a climate! Some can, and some can not.

I have two loquat trees that survive such a climate, that we just planted in the ground this month, they have already survived our climate so far down to about 13 degrees, yet it can get down to 3 degrees here for a very short time, yet there is a good chance that they both can survive the 3 degrees Fahrenheit. I will be grafting on 4 varieties that probably can fruit in our climate most years.

Now I am curious which loquat the ‘JC Raulston arboretum’ has that you tried fruit from. They have 3 varieties look here loquat - JC Raulston Arboretum Plants

Seems to me, like it could be their ‘Wuling Hardy’
loquat, see here JC Raulston Arboretum - 2015 Connoisseur Plants – Volunteer

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I asked a staff member and he said he was brought directly from Taiwan but didn’t say what it was called.

I grew out some seeds but the deer have killed almost all of them, maybe one is still alive.

As far as I can tell, only their ‘Wuling Hardy’ came from a seed that originated in Taiwan. Clearly the ‘JC Raulston arboretum’ named the variety themselves.

Based upon what the ‘JC Raulston arboretum’ says ‘Wuling Hardy’ is probably one notch less cold hardy crop wise, verses the varieties that I am planing to get.

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Interesting, which ones are you looking into?

  1. ‘Shambala’ - “Season: Mid to Late season fruiting, frost resistant, flowers repeatably during the year, so if the first batch of flowers get hit by frost, then there could likely be a second batch of flowers that turns in to fruit.). Flavor is like ‘Sweetart Candy, Apricotty’. Fruit Size is ‘Medium-Large’. Fruit Type: Orange Flesh, with a dense & Juicy Texture. It carries a unique and complex candy flavor of sweet, tart, and sour tones in each fruit. The fruit tends to have random size variances with occasional moderately large ones—sporting a clean, yellow peel.”

  2. ‘Golden Orb’ originally from Australia, it is a repeat bloomer, blooms more than once a year, for this reason it’s second set of flowers has a very good chance of turning in to fruit despite a cold climate, it’s fruit is sweeter and less tart than normal golden loquats.It’s like a white loquat in disguise as a golden loquat. Like the white loquats tend to be, it has a stronger pear flavor than most golden loquats have. It’s one of the most cold hardy varieties there is. It’s fruit may be close to one or more of the sweeter varieties of the Maltese Naspli.

  3. ‘Bullock 1’ - “one of two trees called the ‘Bullocks brothers’, they are located in the state of Washington.”

“The most reliable variety against frost in my experience is a variety called Bullock 1. This is a selection from the Bullock brothers permaculture orchard in Orcas Island (north of here— quite cold). It has near zero frosted flowers.” - @ramv

  1. ‘Harvest’ - Season: Mid to Late season fruiting, abnormally cold tolerant and highly prolific, can crop when nothing else in the area could because of the cold. The flavor of it’s fruit resembles a Honeydew Melon. Fruit size is Medium. It’s a white fleshed, White-Yellow type of loquat that is ‘Heavily Clustered’. It’s fruit has a thick Melony Texture.

“The Harvest is a new and very sweet variety, and we are excited to now offer it. Clusters of fruit consistently weigh down the tips of every single branch—generally multiple clusters on each branch. We have yet to see a loquat as prolific as this one—especially with medium sized fruit. The fruit tastes like a sweet honeydew melon, and there are just so many on one tree, you simply cannot eat them all. The tree keeps a nice, spreading arc in the upper canopy. If you want a massive harvest per square inch of tree real estate, this is the one for you. Harvest has strong commercial potential, and most white fleshed varieties have issues with prolificity—not this one.”

“The abnormally cold tolerant and highly prolific ‘Harvest’ variety for pulling off a crop when nothing else in the area could.”

Cuttings rooted decently. Since I didn’t root them in an ideal setting, I lost a few. But if I did I probably would have gotten a better rate. These were vegatative cuttings from off the trelis.

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