What Are You going to Order for 2017?

I have gotten gooseberries from 2 sources: one was Honeyberry USA and one was Tractor Supply. For the benefit of those who may not know this,m I think TS is one of the best big-box/retail stores for plants and trees (for those willing to accept the previously discussed pros and cons of big box store plants and trees).
First, I want to say that of all the BB stores, I think TS has some of the best trees. Their outside-the-store stock are a good selection of healthy trees, good prices, and most of all I’ve neither seen or experienced any mislabeled trees. BUT MAKE SURE YOU GO INSIDE. First, all the TS stores I have been to (a lot) always have a small little cardboard display stand that has 1 variety each of apple (honey crisp), pear (Ayers or Bartlett), peach (red haven), and plum (damson (a strange choice IMHO)). These are all $9.99 or $12.99. They are just 3-4 ft whips and are obviously bear root trees packed in damp sawdust and potting soil). But they are good, grafted, healthy trees and mine have all done really well and quickly catch up to considerably larger, actual potted trees planted at same time. I am very found of these cheap but good trees.

I have bought gooseberry plants there too. Again, for those who don’t know this, if you go inside Tractor Supply that have a large, temporary display made of wood and cardboard with several shelves that holds what I’d guess is more than 100 plants. This is where it gets fun (for me). They have an AMAZING variety of plants that I rarely see anywhere else. They have 2 types of almost all of them for pollination purposes I guess. They have gooseberries, raspberries, logan berries, black berries (usually including that hard to find, ultra-hardy “Chester”), strawberry (lots), figs, grapes, Blueberries, JOSTA berries, Kiwis (4 kinds), hazelnuts, chestnuts, and pecans (but the nuts are seedlings- which just means rootstock to us. :slight_smile: ) and more! That selection rivals most on-line nurseries, shipping is obviously free, and you get to inspect your plants and pick the best ones before harvest. You can probably tell that I’m a pretty big fan of TS (when it comes to plants-otherwise I find them overpriced!) HOWEVER, it is important that I convey one very important caveat that casts a shadow on TS and my enthusiasm for them. Its the fact that they will leave their plants on the shelf way past the point where they are viable. The plants (and the inside trees) are in plastic bags that are completely sealed and can’t breath. Its also obvious that they are never watered after they go on the shelves. As a result, if you get them after they’ve been there a while, you may well be getting a dead or dying plant. TS will accept returns but I don’t know for how long.

OK, sorry for the rabbit trail but I really thought people might benefit from knowing about. Now to (FINALLY!) answer your question. All the gooseberries I’ve gotten from both Honeyberry USA and T.S. have been TINY. I mean about the size and appearance of a pencil with thorns. In spite of this, they have all survived. ONE IMPORTANT THING I want to warn you about. Some of mine had new, green leaves coming up when I received and planted them. In about 1/2 of these cases, those leaves- which were all alive and green at planting- wilted and died. So for all the world it looks like the little stick of a plant is dead. DO NOT dig it up to throw away! Most of the ones that have done this way end up sprouting brand new leaves and going on the grow into good looking plants. SO keep that in mind if it happens to you.

By the way, Bob, have you ever eaten a gooseberry? What made you want to plant them? I ask because I now have 5 of them growing and I’ve never tasted or even seen one in person! haha I’ve heard different report on whether they are good/palatable for fresh eating. Most seem to think they are best in pies.

As usual, sorry so long.

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Last summer I was on a diet and I would take a big hand full of goose berries for lunch. If I was real hungry they were ok but after a week or so I just couldn’t eat the any more freash but they are good for you.

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No, I have not tried a gooseberry yet, but my wife says they were grown here on the farm for a while years ago, and she liked them then. So, I’m really getting them for her.

We heard from a neighbor that there are some wild GB plants in a holler about a mile from here. So my wife said that she was going to investigate these plants if the neighbor says it’s OK. I suppose we’ll find out soon enough how they taste. When do they ripen, July or so? If they’re good, we’ll get some cuttings and try them here.

OK, good to hear about them being little thorny twigs. I just wonder why they can’t give one something a bit more substantial.

Yeah the Stark trees’ roots look a bit butchered, we’ll see how they do. I just finished up getting those two in the ground. I was out there until dark putting some straw mulch on them and the three apple trees. I then put some wire cages around them to keep the critters (deer, rabbits) off them.

That peach tree, wow, it was a monster, almost an inch thick, looks good in the ground along with the others. It has some very small green buds on it already. I pruned the branches on all the trees, and headed the apples at about 38" or so. I’ll post some pics of the planted apples soon, I ran out of daylight before I could get any pics of the planted Stark’s trees. It’s starting to rain here (shocking!), so glad I got them in the ground.

Our local Tractor Supply did have a small smattering of fruit trees last time I was there, not a lot to pick from. Lowe’s on the other hand had lots of apples, pears, cherries, and peaches. They look awfully tempting, but they’re running about $30 right now. I might pick up a sweet cherry if they come down on prices at the end of the season.

They still look good, Lance. Didya get them planted yet? Yeah, that Harrow Sweet looks like a grade 2 whip, not a feathered grade 1. I don’t even know they had any HS in stock recently, I guess you ordered these a few months ago?

Question: how will you prune the feathered apple’s branches? I got a feathered Suncrisp from them, and pruned the branches down by half. I headed all of the apples at about 38". This is per Cummins’ instructions.

Alright, some pics of the apples after planting, and before pruning. I put them down by the barn, very good soil there, used to be a horse pasture.

Alkmene, on G11

Zestar, on G30

Suncrisp, on G30. In the background are a couple of apples we planted last year. Starting from left, Cortland and Winesap. A Macoun is out of shot, to the left of the Cortland.

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OK, thought I’d post a few more pics, even though I imagine some folks get tired of seeing them. I pruned the trees, put down some straw, and placed some cages around them. Anyways, we got at least another inch of rain overnight, and I had to fight a light mist to get these. Hopefully this will be the last of the rain for a few days, our ground is super-saturated right now.

Maxine pear

Blushingstar peach

Alkmene apple

Suncrisp apple

Overall view of the fruit tree patch down by the barn. Will be growing tomatoes in this garden plot this year. Things are really greening up around here, especially the grass. May have to do a little bit of mowing in a few weeks, if it’ll ever stop raining.

Gratuitous dog picture…

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Looks terrific! Great pics. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks! I still have to plant my blueberries and gooseberries that I got yesterday. My tart cherry bushes are due next week, and I just got a confirmation from ACN about my Contender and Harrow Sweet trees being shipped out next week, prob arrive on Wed. SO, lots of stuff going on here. Today I’m cooling my jets, digging all those holes, digging new holes to get some extra soil to fill up the original holes, pruning, mulching and putting those cages down for five trees was a bit tiring. Got to get rested up for next week. Plus, I’m starting my indoor veggie seedlings this weekend.

How’s things going there, are you planting anything yet, fruit or veggie wise?

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Busy, busy time for you! I recently planted a “Honey Jar” jujube tree. I am pretty excited about it! I have also had two grafting sessions (one on Feb 27th and the other on Mar 26th). Surprisingly the pears I grafted in late Feb (before the great big freeze of 2017) are pushing buds and looking good. Nice to see some Korean Giant, Ayer, Orient and Hood pear buds pushing through on Bradford pear rootstock. My understanding is persimmons is a bit more challenging to graft. I grafted two pieces each of Jiro and Fuyu onto my native American Persimmons on March 26th. Nothing planned to plant vegetable wise this year. Maybe next summer when we move out there on our 20 acres.

Yes, quite busy here. I need to get my veggie seeds out and start deciding which ones we’ll try this year. Bet you can’t wait to move out to the south '20, or whatever you call it. Have y’all started on the house, and if so, how far along is it?

Glad to hear that your pear grafts took. I’m sure that’s exciting to see. I need to try some grafting, but don’t want to butcher my new trees, maybe in a few years after they’ve grown a bit, I’ll try it.

We also have an Orient pear, but I have it confused with a Pineapple pear out in the yard. One took off like gangbusters last year, and the other was quite a bit behind. But it looks like those two and the Moonglow are pushing out some leaves already. I was just out looking at my apples and a very few of them have little green buds starting up. My two small peaches have new green growth as well, but their little fruit blooms got nailed by a deep freeze a couple weeks ago.

That happened to me last year. It was small, still is, looking good though. Interesting plant, berries are almost white.
This year I ordered a crandall currant. i have wanted one for years, I ordered it in the middle of the night when no one was looking :cop:

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Come on man…We are tree nerds…We don’t get tired of seeing tree pics

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That’s what happened to me Sat night. ACN had a Contender peach which I’ve been coveting for a couple of years, so I had to grab one, with a pear tree as well. I still haven’t told Mrs Dood yet. Don’t know how I’m going to get those two trees by her when they show up next week! She knows my RS cherry bushes and a gooseberry will be delivered, so maybe I could tell her the two trees were a bonus from Honeyberryusa? I’m done with trees for now. This year, anyways. I hope. Might pick up some raspberry plants, tho.

At least with your currant plant, you could prob get that by the Mrs (but, maybe she doesn’t mind?).

I would rather she not know. Else I’ll have some splaning to do! She doesn’t pay that much attention, so she may think a new plant has been there. Trees, no, but currants, yeah I can sneak that in. Today I was up potting peppers from seed, and I have 10 feet of lights going, and I had to put some stuff in the window. I have to get some figs outside and I’ll have room.

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Ah, the spring time potted plant shuffle? I’m sure yer back will appreciate moving all those heavy pots around, yes? I was out just about all afternoon yesterday digging and planting five trees, and today I’m feeling it a bit. I was out there during the very last bit of daylight putting down the mulch and setting the fencing around them. Thankfully I had some extra “pre-formed” circular fencing laying around the other apple patch.

Yeah, I’m going to start my peppers and toms this weekend. So guess I’ll need to get out the heat mat, and bring up the T8 light bank up from the old house pretty soon. She doesn’t like it being in the hallway during this time of the year, but being in a single wide limits the places where you can grow stuff!

I think I’ve been micro-aggressed, I need a safe space.:cold_sweat:

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Haven’t started building yet. Plan to start next summer. We are excited about living on the “south 20”!! Yeah, you have to try grafting at some point. It’s really gratifying and enjoyable. And like so many others have stated “pears” are definitely the ones to start your grafting endeavors with.

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Well, when I pruned the top and branches off my apples, I saved the cuttings, and got a idea of maybe trying to graft them onto to some volunteer seedlings. Or, as my wife suggested, perhaps graft them onto our old established Milam apple trees. Of course the three different varieties that were headed yielded thick cuttings, all at least 9/16", whereas the branch cuttings are thinner, maybe a half to pencil thickness. Who knows, I might give either one a shot. We don’t have any pears on the farm anywhere to experiment on.

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Just a quick question for you grafters. I want to take these cut off pieces and graft them to the branches of old apple trees. Would a cleft graft be the best bet in this regard? I looked at some stuff online and it seems to be pretty simple.

Also, after the graft’s been made, what’s the best way to seal off the graft? Wax, tape, both? The big tree’s are just now starting to green up, so is now the best time to do this?

Thanks!

Hi everyone,

Just thought I’d add our order list for this year - our first year doing this!

Apple scion wood:

Adams Pearmain
American Beauty
Ashmead’s Kernel
Black Oxford
Blue Pearmain
Claygate Pearmain
Fall Russet
Gray Pearmain
Hoople’s Antique Gold
Hunt Russet
Kidd’s Orange Red
Lord Lambourne
Mother
Orleans Reinette
Pitmaston Pineapple
Reine des Reinette
Roxbury Russet
Westfield Seek No Further
Wheeler’s Golden Russet

Pear scion wood:

Des Urbanistes
Gorham
Magness
Harrow Sweet
Harvest Queen
Potomac
Tyson

Rootstocks: G41 and OHx333

There were a few things we were looking for that I wasn’t able to track down this time around - but I think we’ll have more than enough to keep us occupied… Everything’s arrived and looks to be in good shape, so we’ve gotten that far anyway.

I should add that everyone on this forum has been tremendously helpful, both directly and indirectly. So, thanks everybody!

Jamie

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