I have several mulberry seedlings, all grown from 2 berries that came from the same tree that I planted in a big pot, mostly to see if they would grow, and they did. is was last April, and now in Sep, I have 3 different types of mulberry trees. Most of them have the heart shaped(sort of) serrated non lobed leaves, but some have only 3 lobed (I think), and some of the lobed ones are short and bushier, but one of the lobed ones is tall and growing like the the heart shaped leaf ones. I know there was another mulberry tree in the vicinity of the one I picked the berries from, dark purple or black, about an inch long, delicious, sweet, tart, kinda like blackberries, and stained my hands. It was in a suburban neighborhood in the Dallas, TX area. The mother tree had heart shaped dark green leaves, lighter on the underside. It was hanging over a fence, and I was picking from outside the fence, so I couldnāt seethe bark. I have room for 3 of these trees on my property, I have a couple Iām giving away. Iāll upload some pics, I separated one of the berries sprouts in July, and repotted 4 of them in their own pots, which almost killed them, but they are recovering. I left the other berryās trees alone, and they are the big ones all in one pot, and you can see the different leaves well there. I am trying to get an idea of what I have, the fruit I picked was good, but how can I tell if I will get the same from these, or do I just get to wait another season or two and see what kind of berries I get ?
The system will only let me post one pic, so I hope you can tell with this one.
Try uploading one picture, wait until the upload is finished and then upload again. Press Reply, when you are done uploading several.
A nice pic of a large leaf from the top and from the bottom would help
Thank You Tana, Iāll try that.
Good article, rubus_chief, thanks.
So what you are saying is you want to see a leaf from the bottom of the tree and a leaf from the top of the tree. From each type of tree. I will need to take a few more pics when I go out to water this evening. Right now Iām going to upload a pic of the trees I separated and moved to different pots that are now recovering. They are much smaller, and you can see leaves at the top and bottom on a couple very well. These look like two different species of trees, but they came from the same berry. You canāt see it at the angle this was taken at, but all the leaves are growing out of the new upper trunk, after all the leaves died when I separated them - my mistake I should have waited until fall, but that pot was just too crowded.
Nope, I get the error message that new users can only upload one photo per post or something like that. It happens after I click on āReplyā. I can upload them, I just canāt complete the post with over 1 message attached to it. Not sure how long I will be a new user.
Take a good picture of the mother tree bark, the top of a leaf and the underside of a leaf
And of a branch with buds.
Ah. O.K. one forgets about that. And if you are actively engaging, not too long.
@GT3377 Do you remember after how many true leaves the fig-shaped leaves appeared? Or were the first ones lobed, too? (Just curious - I have1/2 of seedlings of a nigra that have started off as heart- shaped and are pushing out lobed leaves months later.)
Hope you dont mind me joining in this thread with what kind of mulberry questions.
My Daughter and SIL bought a place out in the country, down by a creek a couple years ago.
I have her a kip parker mulberry planted in her field⦠also a kasandra persimmon, a Chicago Hardy fig and an improved kieffer pear. Grafted most of those.
Along the front edge of her property along the county road⦠there are several wild mulberry trees.
Some have fig shaped leaves⦠i figure those are probably rubra/alba crosses.
But then there are 3-4 of these along the road.
Huge leaves no lobes from bottom to top they all look the same.
I am not sure if any of those are fruiting yetā¦
I just noticed them first a couple of weeks ago.
The leaf tops definately have that sandpaper feel. I provided a close up of the bottom of one.
Could these be rubra ? How to tell ?
Thanks
TNHunter
Iām putting my few virtual chips on the rubra by means of exclusion. The (branches+buds) donāt look like nigra or alba branch&bud combination and the leaves donāt look like alba.
As for rubra x alba, no idea. Are there any discreet distinctive marks for descendants or is it an alba-rubra grayscale continuum?
I believe itās more this case unfortunately. Ruba-like with alba characteristics or vice versa
If I were a mulberry, I probably wouldnāt consider it unfortunate, regardless of cognitive capacity.
Well, unfortunately, I no longer have access to the mother tree. The "friend: whose house I was visiting is now an ex-girlfriend. Might be better if I ask her to take a picture and send it to me, I hope we can get along that much. Iāll give that a try. I also took some more pics last night, I will upload as many as I can, may have to make some posts just to upload one pic. Here is a pic of the largest ones, that were never disturbed since they sprouted from a berry, bottom of the trees.
There are 6 trees there, but you can only see five.
Here is the top of a few of the six larger trees. You can see the difference in leaves. I also wanted to mention that from the best I can remember, once the seedlings were large enough to look like little trees, they all seem to have had the same shaped leaves along the whole plant, just different sizes based on how high up they were, and how much sun they got. Iām really having to hold myself back from planting some of these in the ground, or moving them to pots, because I can already see issues starting to manifest because they are so crowded. But I am going to wait for them to go dormant, to avoid a season of them recovering from it, I hope.
I will have to wait until fall to get branches with buds. This is their first year on all of them. Very few actually have any branches yet, mostly just leaves coming off the trunks. But I got a couple that are getting more bushy than the others, and do have some little branches on them. Another reason I think I have multiple sub species of Morus, or unintentional hybrids. But of what?
Here is a pic of one of the seedlings I separated and replanted, you can see the bottom leaves
One trait Iāve noticed, in digging seedlings - and Iām not swearing that it is āgospelā, but it seems pretty consistent to me⦠Seedlings that look like M.alba or albaXrubra hybrids have yellow roots. Seedlings that look like pure M.rubra have orange roots.