Morris Burton isn’t late ripening. It won’t be with your heat units. It’s early and mid around here. Claypool said that was one of the problems with it being used commercially for pulp. The drop is very spread out (over a month perhaps). WS8-10 would be more of a late ripening. Or U20A… or a number of others.
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Thank you for that! Yes our sun will barbecue most everything ripe! The winter can get nasty but it is not to bad yet. It can drop to -25F no problem.
Windchill -25 F like this week is not bad but actually temps of -25F or -30F is bad with a 30 - 45 mph wind.
We currently have 5" of snow on the ground with 30 mph winds. Gusts are going to 45 mph.
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Wind here all night and into today. We had nearly 4 inches of rain overnight. I moved an orange tree in my front yard where two were growing in one spot moving it 22 feet away so there will be three trees evenly spread.
I suspect Juhl was not intended to be hand harvested. It probably works to put down nets and shake the tree.
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I planted a Downingtown Center/Middle last summer from Buzz. Will see how it does. I forget where, but I read somewhere that there are those that believe it may be just Early Golden.
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How is L-104 as far as taste goes? We know it is smaller thanks to this picture from @SMC_zone6
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I found this old thread below very interesting!
Many people have warmer climates than my zone 6a. Sometimes we dip down to -25 or rarely -30F. Think i will try these among others, knowing some have cautioned against a few of them. Kansas may grow them better.
Claypool C-100
Claypool I-94 aka Valene Beauty
Dollywood
Elmo (Claypool A-118)
Garretson
John Rick
Killen
Lena
Morris Burton
Wabash
Weber
Yates (Juhl)
“Lena (Mitchellana) was winner of the Mitchell Indiana Persimmon Festival in 1955. American persimmon variety that is well regarded for it’s flavor, tender skin and attractive red color. Often mentioned as one of the best tasting persimmons. Good for pulp or fresh. Ripens early over a long period. Late ripening.
Zone 5-9”
Others i’m interested in
100-46
Rich tooie
https://growingfruit.org/t/persimmon-mother-load/38916/71
Prok
Barbara’s blush
Many american persimmons are showing potential but a lot more work needs done to get them to the size of kaki.
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Any other info on the DEC trees like DEC Wannabee#3, DEC King Crimson, DEC Goliath, DEC Double-Ziptie, … or Hershey Blue or Breadroll ? I may get scionwood of those soon.
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I know perfect circle has a bunch of these perfect circle farm
Mad cat also sells some
@hobilus may know more about them
I dont know much about Compton persimmons. I do know some. The persimmons are actually the work of Donald Eugene Compton (DEC) from Indiana. There are many of them like DEC wannabe , DEC Goliath, DEC Money maker , DEC King Crimson etc.
This thread says a little more Donald Compton persimmon .Many have taken road trips there Log into Facebook | Facebook
I been talking to @hobulus about a trade yesterday so thats why i was asking.
Its hard to find info on those DEC and Hershey varieties, other than they are good.
Maybe ill call or email the nurseries that offer scionwood or oeople who roadtripped and tried the fruit on FB. Thanks for the suggestions
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Buzz told me that last season. Im not sure how he came to that conclusion. It does apparently have a distinctive tendency to be fasciated too. Thats how it came up actually as I was asking him about some scions that had been labeled “fasciated”. He said also that the fasciated limbs are not stable: the revert to plain growth when grafted.
Its more commonly called ‘yates’ though its gone by both names, depending.
I only know what Buzz told me about them for the most part. Don Compton doesn’t name his varieties, from what I understand, Buzz and others ? have given them cultivar names. I grafted a DEC ‘Don’s Earliest’ this past spring and Im curious to see just how early it is.
The only Hershey variety Ive tried is ‘McKenzie Corner’, which a friend brought freshly gathered from the OG near Downingtown. They were good size and quite tasty. Its also the only of my Hershey selections to fruit so far. It was pretty late for me and not as big or flavorful, but maybe that will improve. Its vigorous and wants to be tall.
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I had studied Hershey’s catalogues and for me only ‘Buhrman’ matches blue coloration.
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Of the lesser known selections I grow 100-45 (with gratitude to Jerry Lehman) and it is as good as 100-46 although a bit later ripening. Knightsville on the other hand is probably the worst from the list. Long since I regrafted it to something else.
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Thank you for the insight hopefully it benefits many others reading this as well! Im sure it will! This forum tends to have many readers and only a small percentage post this information like you just did.
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Breadroll 425-17
Does anyone have experience with this variety, to give a good description?
Thanks
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I agree with that generally regarding 100-45 which made smaller fruit for me than 100-46, but nicely sweet. The first two fruits that fell early were astringent. I made the mistake of trying the first one and after some time I was getting cottom mouth, but it was so sweet that I finished it. I made the same mistake on the second one 
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When i posted the website where these were offerred https://brambleberrypermaculture.square.site/shipping i didnt get the reception i expected. A couple of people were salty that the website they felt was hard to navigate which i didnt find to be true they used drop down menus. I would walk through a field with 6 inch mud to find a good scion. Maybe things have not been that hard for everyone. Brambleberry farm - rare scions you definately will want persimmons etc!
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41-60 sticks $28
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Here is a few of the american persimmons on their inventory and im impressed!
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From your observation, Hershey’s Blue is 90n or 60n ? By the way could you tell anything more about ‘Ami’ ?
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These will be new to us just like they are to you. Maybe an email to mail@brambleberryfarm.org could answer your questions. Please let us know what you find out.