2016 graft thread

Hot as blazes. If they take, great. If not, oh well, I tried. Forecast called for rain today, but it never came.

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I’m still grafting as well- another dozen grafts and probably a few more tomorrow.

It was ~75F today, and the next 3 days look pretty nice (another 75, 77, and 79). My initial rounds of peach grafts don’t look great, so I’m making a few more grafts and hoping for better results.

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This is actually from a 2015 Williams Pride graft on a crappy red delicious. Kind of proud of it though as its the first fruit I’ll ever get from a graft that I did myself. I also had 9 shinseiki pears growing but had to remove them all due to fire blight.

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Here’s one of the Lapins I put on Colt. I put it in three of my trees too.

Spice Zee on k-1

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Hmmm isn’t Spice Zee under patent? I don’t think it is available on K1 yet. Did you graft it yourself?

Last year, August 2015, I decided to try bud grafting for the first time. @BobVance sent my some wood and I tried some double flap bud grafts which were 100% failures.
This May I found some of the wood still in the refrig. Although the wood was 9 months old some of the plum scion looked OK and showed green when scrapped. I did two clef graphs and they are now growing nicely.

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I didn’t know that. Yes I grafted it from scion wood some gave me.

Johnny, I won’t tell anyone!

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Looking for some advise as to how best to proceed with my apple grafts.

Most of these were bench grafted back around 3/15; spent 1 month in a root cellar; and then were potted and put in the GH where they are now. As you can hopefully see from the pic, they are doing well (12/13 took) and generally have 12" of scion growth. As a newbie to grafting, I have a few questions about what to do next.

First question is where to move them. They will soon be too big for the GH, and it is getting too hot and humid in there for them. I was thinking of moving them to the orchard outside, but that raises a couple more questions.

Some of these are intended as replacements for trees that didn’t make it. I could put those in the ground in the intended spots. But I wonder if that would leave them too exposed to the wind, birds and other dangers at this stage?

I was thinking of putting up a fenced area (4’x6’ or so with 2x4" welded wire fencing) and moving some or all of them into that area. The question is plant them in the ground there, or leave them in pots (if in pots, I would repot the ones in smaller pots to larger sized ones)? And also, what spacing is right for new grafts?

Last question is when do I cut the electrical tape holding the grafts together. They seem to be growing, and I don’t see any signs of the tape constricting the graft growth. But outside here is fairly windy so there will be stress on these grafts once outside the GH.

Thoughts?

How do you know when a patent is expired? Looking at spice zee it was patented 7 Jan 2002. That’s all it says. But I’m reading from my iPhone so maybe I’m not seeing everything.

Add 20 years onto that date. Brady

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Not sure where you live but here in Z7b what I would do is to put them in an area that gets half day sun preferably morning. Skim the sod and keep the bottom of the pot in contact with the ground. Group them so they are are easy to water AND where you won’t forget them. Then mound mulch over them to cover the pots so they don’t heat up with the sun. Then water well to establish wicking.
Congrats. They are beautiful.
Whoops. When they go dormant, then xplant.
BUT, if there is reason to xplant them now, I’d put a tomato cage or like structure over them and keep them covered for a while with something like aluminet, or anything that attenuates the sun as they are acclimating.

Thanks Anne.

I was thinking that for the winter I would move them into the barn or some other sheltered place. Our site is VERY windy all year, but especially in the winter (100+mph almost every winter), so some added protection would be good.

One question for you, by mulching over the pots which are on bare soil, won’t that encourage rooting into the ground? Perhaps that would be OK if you weren’t going to move them for a while but I would think that if they do overwinter in the barn, they’d be loosing a bunch of roots.

Yep. But that is a plus for me since I often forget to water the pot grown stuff. I treat the trees that I bring in for winter that way and they do well. [quote=“Steve333, post:393, topic:4744”]
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Well, that depends on how long they are there and how much water they need. I don’t think you would loose a lot of roots. Are you planning to grow these in the ground at some point? With winds like that you may want to consider a trellis system to stabilize the branches - and the trunks whilst young. Something like an espalier would support the growing trees with that kind of wind. Do other seasons have such high winds?.
If you notice that you leave lots of roots behind when you move them, it would be best to prune the tops back some as well.

Whatever you do protect them from the rabbits and deer if you have any around they will find them in short order and eat your hard work!

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Crazy growth on the double cleft grafted sweetheart cherry. I need to cut one off but can’t force myself to do it.

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Just close your eyes and cut.

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As already mentioned deer and rabbits can destroy your hard work overnight. So don’t even take chances with waiting even one night to protect them if you do plant them out. Also don’t forget about leaf eating insects once you move them outside. They can strip a lot of leaves even with as much growth your grafts have.

I am by far an expert but I have grown apple seedlings for a year in pots the size you have and they were fine. And you wont be taking the chance of dislodging a graft that has already taken and growing well.

Again no expert here but would wait as long as possible to remove the tape if they look ok. Again no reason to take the chance of having a graft break until you "have "to mess with it.

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Leafing out in this year’s aisle nursery bed

Have my cake and eat it too, top worked Melba apple tree where some nurse limbs and spurs are giving us some apples this year, hopefully in a couple years it will be doing that with bittersweet cider fruit.

Starting to unwrap grafts I did with vinyl tape, here’s z grafts calusing, I expect these to be fully healed over by the end of the season and support vigorous growth without needing additional support
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I couldn’t help but notice the flap on your graft. Is this a common practice and I just haven’t ever noticed it before? I’m assuming that it is added to speed up the healing over. Anyway your grafts look like they are doing well.

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