Most are on Callery though I purchased 50 betulifolia which are in process of being grafted.
I made a total of 36 pear grafts so having 5 fails is not too bad. I check each failure to see why it happened. One was a bad scion. Another was not wrapped tightly enough and was on a very tiny rootstock. Blake’s Pride was a bad scion stick. Grafts with a good stick were successful. The bad stick had a dark streak through the middle so I knew it might be a problem when I made the graft.
Looking great! I haven’t heard of Tone Wase, any info to share?
My recommendation- I’ve been making a tiny loop at the end of wrapping my temflex, then I roll that loop over the end of the strip and catch it. Works pretty well once I get the technique down, plus I put buddy tape on top for reassurance.
19 more persimmons grafted tonight, I think I made it to 22 last sprint, and I had 8 before that.
It’s slow work, I’m averaging 6-8 grafts per hour. I know if I had better matched scion to rootstock and could use the v-cut more often I’d be much faster. Usually I aim for one per 5 minutes or much less on easy trees.
Lots of new varieties, a few I’m making backups.
Shin Na Da
Fruit Dump
Buzz’s Favorite
100-46
Zirochka
Pamjat Pasenkova
‘Oakland’
A ‘few’ others, mainly for future breeding efforts. It feels good to make a dent in the ginormous bag I have in the refrigerator.
That’s a cool basket to hold the tree sleeves, where did you get that? I’ve been looking for something similar
My California deeaming seedless CHE… W/T graft to osage orange. Is taking off nicely.
I am going to plant it in ground this week at our new home location.
That larger branch is even setting some CHE fruit allready.
TNHunter
I found three of them in the attic area of our office garage, abandoned and dusty 
. I speculate they were from the chest freezer we use to keep seedlings in cold storage and store water samples.
I’ve seen similar things on Facebook marketplace that I believe were for bread that a guy was giving away for free. I didn’t get a response when I inquired or I would’ve grabbed dozens. Square kitty litter buckets work well too.
Yeah I need to hit some thrift stores, hard to find a good way to prop up tree pots. Was thinking of just bungee cording them together
Tone Wase is an astringent variety of Japanese origin. From what I read it is quite popular in Japan, once fully ripe loses astringency and is very sweet and well flavoured.
The main reason why I am trying it is because it fits into my 8b zone (reportedly can cope with -18C) and ripes very early. While I have good warm summers here, the main challenge is the number of warmth hours per year, so I am hoping fruits will be ripe before the winter comes.
Interesting choice. Let us know how it works out. I might follow your lead.
According to my notes, Tonewase is a PVA type that is fairly cold hardy (maybe -5 F).
One note that may be relevant for you: PVA type persimmons tend to be very amenable to treatment with CO2 or ethanol to remove astringency. Some of the major commercial varieties (e.g., Rojo Brillante) come from this group. So possibly you could pick the fruits when they are orange but not fully ripe, then finish them with ethanol indoors.
One other tidbit: Tonewase is nonaploid.
I went down that road and several people on this forum advised against. Said fruit was disgusting and after 4 or 5 years of promising growth it ultimately rejected…
So I didn’t try
@ggrindle … by going down that road…
Are you talking about grafting CHE to osage orange ?
I have a CHE now that produced some very nice fruit last year… and it is grafted to osage orange.
I am simply reproducing it now to get one started at our new home site.
Thanks
I mostly have just put deepots (the round ones) in 5 gal buckets or similar size pots. The racks that are made for them (the new model, not the old flimsy ones) are pretty nice, but definitely add to the cost of what are otherwise pretty affordable pots, so I just have one of those. You can see in this photo what I do with most of them for now:
I would worry that a bungee cord might slip to the bottom if you’re shifting things around at all, since they have a tapered shape. It would probably work better for the square treepots though.
Grab some old/cracked (or new if needed) storage totes and drill holes in the bottom. I think you can fit around 40 deepots in an 18 gallon tote like I have there.
How did it taste?
See below
Yes, these were all bench grafts either healed in the garage or the hot pipe. I wanted to get a head start on my 1st growth season so I potted them and moved them into bins to shuffle in/out in mid-late April.
If you have a local garden center that just got their spring inventory, they may be looking to offload crates. I bought some for $5 each at Jung’s and they fit 20x 4x9 treepots perfectly. I’m not sure what they’re called, but the crates that look like milk crates but are a bit longer/wider.
If you have a Menards near you, I also found that the 12 fallon Perfomax black and yellow storage tubs fit 12x tree pots nicely, and the 27 gallons 20 tree pots quite nicely with some squeeze. That said, whatever garage bins you usually use with a few holes in the bottom probably work.
I figure once it gets hit I’ll sink the pots in mulch. But for now the solar absorbtion is more a feature than a bug!
OK, I did H-118 yesterday and Nikita’s Gift today. For NG, I removed the central leader on my established “Prok” frankentree. Here’re the before and after pics. In the top (before) pic, everything circled is still “Prok”; everything else is top working. In the bottom (after) pic, the Prok has been removed (except for one small branch) and replaced with NG:
@ggrindle … i bought my California dreaming seedless CHE from Cliff at Englands Orchard in the spring of 2020.
In year 3 it produced some fruit and it even turned red but did not ripen… fell off late season.
In year 4 it produced more and it ripened last fall… got to try my first ripe CHE fruit.
I was so ready to experience something awefull tasting because of all that (a specific member here had said about them) over and over again…
BUT !!! … was pleasantly surprised by the way my CHE fruit tasted. It was very similar to a perfectly ripened very sweet piece if watermelon… but had more flavor than any watermelon I have ever tasted… berry flavor similar to raspberry. They were very moist, juicy, tender, refreshing… watermelon/raspberry like.
My CHE from Englands Orchard was grafted to osage orange. It produced very nice first ripe fruits in year 4.
It will be sold with our current home when we do sell.
I got some osage orange rootstock from a member here by trade… potted it up early this spring and it sprouted and set small leaves a month or so ago.
I grafted a scion from my CHE onto it. It is looking very happy now. Hopefully in 3 or 4 more years… I have that same CHE at my new home.
PS… i found out this fall that Cliff has a new favorite CHE variety that ripens even earlier than mine. I may have to add that one too.
TNHunter
