The record low for Luotian County is 11 degrees, and this paper describes Luotian tianshi as growing with chestnut, tung tree, and Chinese tallow tree. I think the last two are 7b-8a trees at most, so I wouldn’t expect more cold hardiness than normal.
That’s good to know. I’ve got enough seeds with the american persimmons. I’m in the persimmons taste better with seeds camp, but I still don’t want them.
Yes, my error. Thank you for the correction. Looks like I read off the hardiness zone for Hebei and not Hubei.
Meader…my first persimmon tree. Flavor just so-so. Tree split in 2021 storm. Cut it down and dug out the stump/crown. After 3 years, root suckers from this tree still sprouting far and wide all over the yard. Impossible to eliminate.
Jiro - Japanese type. Dwarf tree. Produces consistently every year. And I prune it back in early spring.
Nikita’s Gift. Planted in 2011. Don’t know why but the tree just died in 2022. Fruit had a wonderful rich taste, but took about 8 years before producing fruit.
Yates. Planted in 2011. Has been producing consistently last 2-3 years. Taste is pretty good. Has seeds. Messy to eat.
Morris Burton. Planted in 2012. Took a long time to produce fruit, and very few. Possibly because neighbor’s tree shaded it and its tree roots invaded my tree.
Just to illustrate what we mean by square and round shapes of PCNA kaki persimmons, here’s a picture of Chinebuli on the left and Wase Fuyu on the right to compare.
@Robert… I purchased a Cardinal Asian persimmon from OGW and planted it this spring. Per their description… a Korean variety, very early ripening.
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Cardinal™ Asian Persimmon is a spectacular, non-astringent, Korean variety and is the earliest ripening Asian Persimmon we have seen. Ready to eat 2-3 weeks before other varieties, it is large, sweet and great for fresh eating. Cardinal™ is an attractive, compact tree with beautiful, orange-red fall foliage.
Hardy to 0º F., Asian Persimmons are easy to grow in the Northwest and other regions of the U.S. with mild winters. Naturally compact trees Persimmons rarely exceed 12ft. in height.
I agree, they are 2 different fruits - just like pears do not taste like apples. They are related but not the same.
While I grow and really like asian persimmons, I much prefer the richer/spicier taste and dryer texture of native persimmons - if I have to compare the 2 fruits.
I love them both but they are not the same.
As it stands i am hoping to visit the tree(s) this weekend so that i can at least see them with fruit on and know where they are at a later date.
Could be a 5 year old tree or 20 year old tree…i have no idea… could be others also.
A friend of mines wife is a cook at the school and she brought them home to him to plant seeds… which is how i got involved…as they have no seeds… he wants me to find him a tree to grow because they taste so good. But i cant if i dont know what it is.
Sounds good, I look forward to hearing what you’ve discovered after scoping it out!