My dad would like a couple of trees but can’t afford the 15 gallon prices of the local nurseries. These would be shipped to CA.
Thanks!
My dad would like a couple of trees but can’t afford the 15 gallon prices of the local nurseries. These would be shipped to CA.
Thanks!
Burnt Ridge nursery still have some but I am not sure if they will ship to CA.
http://www.burntridgenursery.com/Jujube/products/21/
Tony
Bob Wells Nursery has them and will ship bare root until June 1st. To me they are pricey but then I don’t know CA prices. $69.50 + $27.50 shipping. (Shipping includes up to 6 trees) They do have nice stock at their nursery.
I found them at Raintree and I ended up adding persimmons and asian pears to my cart along with the jujubes but before checking out, I saw this warning:
They have a warning/recommendation to wait until next spring to plant bare root if temps are 75 degrees, which they are in San Diego. Will the trees be in danger of dying? Should I just look for a containerized Jujube and pay double for it locally?
Thanks!
lowe’s starts selling jujus at ~39$ here in so nv at around late May, which am (almost)sure will be the same price at a lowe’s there in cali. Yes, it sells for almost twice that of a peach or apple specimen of the same size, but i think it would be about the same cost or more expensive for a bare root tree from out of state.
Also, lowe’s has a 1 year warranty on their trees, plus the priceless bonus of undamaged roots.
but if you still decide to go with raintree, i can assure you the survival rate of jujus will be much higher than the pear, because quite likely the jujus are still dormant, or at a much earlier stage of budding out than the pear.
shipping trees which have leafed out are the most vulnerable.
Thanks! I will wait and get a containerized tree at Lowes or Home Depot. I’ve never seen them here but it is probably due to me not knowing what a jujube was until a few months ago.
never seen home depot sell jujubes, at least here in so nv.
but possible they also sell it at home depot’s in ca , as the jujus sold by lowe’s and star nursery here have tags indicating cali being the origin.
here’s a lowe’s tag from many years ago, unfortunately they only sell li’s and lang’s.
li is pretty good, and is self-fruitful. Buy lang only if you intend to be a collector. Otherwise just buy li’s.
Thanks for the advice. I thought I had to buy a Li and a Lang for pollination but it sounds like I’ll be fine with just one Li or two?
li is self-fertile, as are many jujus. I have bagged flowering branches of li(as well as many other varieties) using n-95 masks as air filters, before the flower buds open, and li is one of many which have fruited in ‘private’.
lang and other lang- relatives plus redlands didn’t fruit when bagged, but my studies have too low a sample population to be conclusive, and of course–not in laboratory conditions. But could almost conclude that lang is heavily dependent on other varieties for pollen, if not totally. Have seen other anecdotal online accounts of lang being such, hence my biased conclusion.
good that lang is nothing more than a collector’s specimen, since the fruits are disgusting when eaten fresh.
makes excellent chewy dates though, if you have a sweet tooth
Just wanted to say thanks for that info on taste AND on pollination. I was going to buy a li and lang myself. Several vendor descriptions, including the burt ridge one you gave, indicates that Lang is better dried but is also good for fresh eating. Sounds like you disagree! I also, just like @brownmola , thought both were required. If you only had 2 jujubes, what would they be? Thanks raf.
not true, at least in vegas conditions. But not to dismiss other people’s findings, because jujus seem to bear fruits with different characteristics when in different growing conditions. Our contorted’s bear quite profusely, and are often touted as ‘up there’ in taste in tx and other regions, but couldn’t say the same for ours. Also, the contorted trees i see being grown in tx(even those contorteds grown in provence, france), even though those are not as heavily fruiting as ours, their fruits are generally larger. I have access to a ~15 year old contorted here in vegas, and comparing its fruits with our trees and with contorteds elsewhere-- well, none of ours, and none of those of the 15 year old local even approach the sizes of those borne in tx and france.
thus said, it may have been unfair to dismiss lang(even though still tempted to bash it, lol)
speaking for myself, i have lang and other mediocre varieties for the same reasons jay leno has lousy high-maintenance cars just for the purpose of ‘completing’ the collection
personally, vegas-grown sihongs, and li’s borne in late sept to nov are the BEST APPLES we have eaten, and that is no typo!
Chico(which incidentally is as born-and-bred in usa as is the honey crisp apple), is amazing too, better than li, depending on my mood.
honey jar and ,many others with ‘sugary names’ are addictive and refreshing as well, but not as good as the aforementioned.
we now have 30+ varieties, and probably had 40+ over 5 years(many of which we discarded or grafted over with hopefully better tasting/productive varieties), and yet to find out for ourselves which could top the aforementioned cultivars. Hopefully we’d come to a conclusion this year. This, of course will be perpetually challenged by future imports, taking into account 600+ more varieties scattered all over china, korea, japan, syria, turkey, etc.
englands nursery, new mex state u, and univ of alabama are three of the major importers/collectors. One green world is also another actively importing nursery, even stamping trademarks on them
What an incredibly informative reply/post. Thanks for that. Sugar cane is one I’ve heard probably the most good comments about. I’m sure that comes under what you called “various sugary names” and that you said are pretty good.
So I may try it and the other 2 you spoke most highly of.
You’ll have to explain why you said vegas-grown li’s are the “best apples” you have eaten! Are you just saying they taste a lot like apples and a great apple at that?
I also loved how you said you “collect” jujubes. I’m not sure why, but I never really looked at gathering and plantig any trees or plants as “collecting”, but of course it really is. In fact, now that you put it like that I think my whole orchard is really just a collection of fruits…and just as you said, I’m really just a “collector” trying to possess as many fruits as I possibly can. And I do look at my trees in a very similar way that I look at things I collect (like guns, for me). ANd I’m always on the lookout, always reading about things I don’t have but would like to ad and so on. pretty cool way to look at it!
sugarcane gets high ratings (almost) across the board, and i agree it is good eaten fresh , but still find it way below the others i have mentioned, including honey jar. But when dried as dates, sugarcane is excellent, like fruity molasses.[quote=“thecityman, post:12, topic:5756”]
just saying they taste a lot like apples and a great apple at that?
[/quote] jujus do taste like apples, but are generally more dense(not as mealy as apples), and not as juicy, and less floral in scent and flavor than apples. Now, not to slight apple lovers, and i know am outnumbered, but sihong is definitely much better than the best apples we’ve tried, and we’ve had plenty apple varieties in our old age. Besides, jujus should not be a threat to apples or other fruits for that matter, but should be regarded as a concrete adjunct to the american fruit industry, because pomes and drupes are often under siege with diseases, pests, late frosts, drought, etc. and generally require pesticides. Warming up to jujus ‘liberated’ me from dependency on apples and most other temperate fruits which are all higher-maintenance… And to top it off, jujus need no pesticides, and need less water (than most fruits, not just apples) and have several -fold more vitamin c and other nutrients than apples. For the sugar addicts, many juju varieties also have the highest brix of fruits one could grow in north america.
i would strongly advise you try sihong, chico, honey jar, and li if you were in the warmer south and southwest. Of these, honey jar and li are more popular and more widely grown, so there’s more data about them in colder climates with shorter growing seasons. Thankfully li and hj are early, and have proved fruitful in many parts of northeast, so would advise you try those two first at 6b/7a. Honey jar does not grow fast, so may need some trunk insulation or some other preferential treatment/planting location to max out warmth in winter.
li seems to like cooler weather too. In the desert, most jujus multi-crop, and li bears better-tasting fruits in late summer compared to those borne in spring which ripened at the height of summer.
Picked up a Li for $49. They also had a variety called sugar something, sugarcane? It was $100 for the same size.
100$ is too expensive, considering that there are other online nurseries selling it for half that price. Would understand if sc were a recent introduction, but sc branches out so quickly and that facilitated mass propagation and broadcasting. If you are handy about grafting, pm me in winter or early spring and will just send you some scions.
49$ for that li is a good price. Your specimen seems quite ready to take on the world with plenty fruiting branches and a vigorous upright growth. Planting it soon out in the open where it gets most sun will harden its growth and minimize lankiness.
awesome frangipani, btw!
Brownmola,
$100 seems expensive until I realize that a bareroot Sugar Cane I bought from Burnt Ridge cost me about $50, a tree + S&H. What I got is. 3.5 ft stick, nothing else. Also, the 4 ft Shanxi li cost me close to $70 bare root.
If I saw a SC looked like the one in you picture, I would buy it. It would save me a year or two.
don’t feel bad about what you received from burntridge. You are still ~30-40$ richer
since you’ve indicated your sc is already leafing out, i could almost assure you it will grow quite vigorously and will branch out so much faster than many other jujus.
Planted and already getting sun at 9am. It will get sun until early evening. Thanks for the Li advice. I’ll definitely contact you later for scions, I appreciate it.
your bird of paradise make me think you’re in warm and sunny so cal.
thus said, you could expect some fruits later this year.
and expect way more fruits next year-- and better-quality fruits, as well
San Diego and every leaf has multiple tiny fruits right now. Don’t know if they’ll all hold on but there has got to be hundreds of little fruits on there.