Apple ID needed, please

This tree was planted around 1960. It has been neglected for years. The tree is about 15 ft tall.

This year, it has a lot of small red apples. The small size could be because of a lack of thinning. It must have good disease resistant because many apples do not have much damage.

The apples weighed about 3 oz each. I cut them up. They looked like red flesh apples. They tasted mildly sweet but somewhat dry. Brix was about 10-11.

The location of this tree is central ,MA


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Redfield perhaps? Its from MA originally I think.

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Mam, don’t know the name but it surely is pretty!

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Scott,
Several characteristics seem compatible. The fruit are small, though. I plan to take its scionwood to graft it on my tree. It will be my first red flesh apple.

Mrs. G, and Scott - if you want some scionwood of this apple, let me know. I have a permission to take as much as I want.

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Mamuang, in spring I would love some scion of that ‘red’ apple. I have two red fleshed apple trees and one that is ‘hot pink’. The two red apples I have are young and haven’t flowered yet. How great! Thanks.

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Sure thing, Mrs. G. If it is really Redfield, I hope the size will be bigger than the ones I got from this tree. Redfield is used in cider and such, not fresh eating. This apple is mildly sweet and a bit dry. I still think it is edible.

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It might be good for spicing (like spiced crabapples).

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I really like this apple. I lost its tag. The apples are small but sweet and aromatic with some crunch. I just picked some yesterday. I am in zone 6a New England. This is definitely a late apple.

Can anyone tell me what variety it is? Here the 3 pics of the same apple

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Is this a well-colored version of the right-hand apple on the that you posted about here?

Your description, the coloring, the shape, and the apparent size of both are still a very good match the Muscat de Venus that I grow here in Marin County. Mine ripen a bit earlier than this, but I’m in 10a. (I realize that you’re skeptical of that guess. I’d post a photo, but I just processed the last of my crop.)

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Jerry,
Thanks for your input.

I had one scionwood of Muscat de Venus from a friend which I promtly grafted on a Gold Rush tree. I may forget a lot of things but not Muscat de Venus because I really like the name and know where I grafted them.

This unknown variety wasgrafted on a Honey Crisp. I grafted over 30 varities on this tree and lost several tags. :confounded:

My MdV’s color is more pinkish. This variety is quite reddish. MdV is not as sweet and no pronounced aroma like this variety.

My MdV ripened a while back. This variety is not quite ready. I had to yank a couple to eat and took pics. They are not the same apple in their look, coloring and taste. The only thing they have in common is size. Both are small apples.

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I surrender. My MdV apparently don’t look or taste the same as yours.

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You raised a good point. I am going to take a side by sode comparison pic to show everyone. I still have a MdV or two in the fridge.

My hope is my MdV will improve its taste in the future. This is its first year fruiting. Too early to be definitive.

The unknown apple is also in its first year fruiting but it tasted excellent. That’s why I really want find out what it is.

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@jerry,
I have two small MdV left so I put them side by side with this unknown.

The unknown is on the left MdV are the two on the right.

A different I have noticed is the coloring. The unknown has yellow undertone but MdV has light green undertone.

The shape of the MdV on the far right is simlar to the unknown, just smaller but size and shape can vary quite a bit.

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Looks like a Cameo to me

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@Paul

That is interesting. The coloring and the shape is similar. Some sites described the test and texture very close to how I feel about it.

I also grafted Cameo somewhere on my trees. Thank you.

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What about this yellow apple? It shape reminds me a bit of Calville Blanc D’Hiver but not as pronounced. When ripe,they turn beautiful yellow. Fruit are medium to large. Its texture is crisp and sweet.

Is it a strain of Golden Delicious?

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Cameo and GD seem reasonable guesses on these. Sweet sounds like Cameo, it is not very sour. GD can russet and you have a bit there by the stem. I have never grown regular GD though so am not so familiar with it. GD usually has those little dots (lenticels) but I don’t see many on your apples. Grimes Golden doesn’t have as many lenticels, also your apple is a bit flatter than many GD and Grimes is also a bit flatter than GD. So, Grimes is another possibility.

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@scottfsmith,
Thank you for your input. I look up Grime Golden apple at Vintage Virginia website (a few sites that I trust their apple descriptions).

The GG there look very much like mine including somewhat a angular shape instead of being round)

Here are mine.

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Yeah the Cameos that I had look the same and taste description fits. I would also say the second one is Golden.

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Is this Esopus Spitzenberg apple? It set only one fruit. I compared it to pics from internet. It looks similar except that mine does not have obvious lenticels.

@alan, et al, What do you think?

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