Blackberries, Raspberries and Hybrids

The reds we have Caroline, Heritage and Latham.

We originally didn’t like Latham that much, the plants came from Costco but then all of a sudden it gave us a pretty good berry. I think we should just get it in the ground. It’s having to do trellising that holds us back. I want to make sure everything’s in place when I put it in the ground. And also be able to protect it from wildlife.

Caroline & heritage are from last year, I don’t know if we’ll get any berries this year, but I seem to remember Heritage trying to make berries after we planted it.

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Love Bottoms Nursery. Fabulous customer service on my blackberry order. Big thumbs up for Bottoms.

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weird, I’m having the opposite experience here in the Dallas, TX area.
Bristol/Munger basically refuses to grow, but Jewel grows long canes

I don’t know if this variety name is accurate (got it from ebay guy), but look how intensely pink the bloom is about to be!

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In case you haven’t read it yet. It’s a wealth of information and one i often refer to when i can’t remember something in regards to raspberries. Aside from this thread

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Does anyone have favorite purple and/ or yellow raspberries? I’m thinking something primocane/ everbearing could be nice but I’m not totally sure what’s out there. I’m in zone 6 and any tolerance to heavy soil is a plus, but the soil would be mounded and heavily mulched so it probably doesn’t make much of a difference. The berries I have now grow like weeds.

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Royalty for purple. Cascade Gold for yellow are my top picks.

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I seem to recall reading this before. The 20-30gal recommended container size seems a bit large. Curious that this article states raspberries have a deep root system yet other sources say they have a shallow root system.

So far Anne is my favorite yellow raspberry because it has a unique apricot flavor in addition to just being sweet. I should be able to give Honey Queen, Honey Jewel and Fall Gold a try this year and will comment later if any of those have better flavor. I would like to give Cascade Gold a try but since it is a summer bearing plant, I may have to wait until next year for fruit.

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My Bristol raspberries I put in last year did the same. While other raspberries seem to struggle with heat, even with afternoon shade, the Bristol plants we planted in full sun thrived.

This seems to be a good raspberry for high heat locations.

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Does anyone have any Cascade Gold, Cascade Delight or Tulameen runners for trade?

What’s a really good tasting erect thornless blackberry that ripens before Osage and Ponca? Does Caddo fill that spot? Does it have a serious flaw? I tried Arapahoe but the taste in my soil was meh at best.

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I love both fall gold and yellow ann. Fall gold for me is juicier and sweeter. Ann is balanced in sweet/tart. Ann has been my top preforming raspberry last year as well.

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I second this. My husband raves about the flavor of Fall Gold being the most delicious raspberry, I think Anne is delicious too and has bigger berries. I’m my yard, Fall Gold just doesn’t put out a lot of fruit, but Anne was pretty productive last year. I would grow both if there is space, it’s a completely different berry.

Also, Fall gold is nice and tidy only growing to about 4-5 ft tall, but Anne’s canes are very long and need extra tall support.

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There is Natchez… some love it some do not. I like it alot more than Arapaho.

Not listed is Apache which i think does just about everything right… but it is a lil later in June and into July.

Caddo was a waste of space for me. I think Zendog does good with it though. Just nothing special about it to me… wasnt very sweet and wasnt complex.

So to answer your question… i would say the Prime Ark floricanes would be the earliest and best tasting…although the floricane crop would be pretty small due to the removal of the primocane parts of the canes.

To not answer your question… i say go for Apache.

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Great info, thanks. Apache is in the chart, looks like roughly same ripe time as Ponca which I have. Will look at Natchez.

that’s a great chart, where’d you find it?
it’s weird they have Horizon on there but not 45 when they both have thorns

Yesterday was first open flower for me, the Brison on the south brick wall (hottest spot of the yard) flowered
Today was the second flower, PA Freedom opened up it’s first

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U of MD…which is pretty similar to my climate.

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I wish I knew what blackberries I have, but I planted those basically first before I cared about a cultivar. They are erect floricane and super productive with no work. I am sure one of the two is Natchez but I’ve no clue what the other is. I highly recommend whatever I have haha

They are well behaved and do not send runners at all. They are still in the same immediate footprint from which they were planted 5 years ago

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Osage? My box stores really push these… it and natchez and navaho are pretty bulletproof. Osage has a sweet tart flavor to me which i like.

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Nice chart!

@hambone I didn’t see Colombian Giant though so I looked it up. I’ve only had it since last spring so I can’t account for this personally, and I only have three different blackberries. But based on some it is an early thornless variety.

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