@CWC … yes… i have heritage red, fall gold, otb, a mystery black, bristol, joan j, purple royalty… and they will all branch out after tip pruning… normally 3-6 fruiting laterals will form.
That HR pic above was tipped in june… and it has 6 forks now with 3 of those being 2 ft long or more.
This is what those HR forks do in the fall.
Thanks - when do you tip yours?
I use 4 ft long fiberglass rods (from TSC) for support and normally push those in the ground 6-8 inches… once they grow about 6 inches above that … i tip them.
For most of my pcanes that happens late june early july.
Jewel isn’t primocane bearing is it? Purchased from Pense in 2019. Had a few berries on floricanes earlier this year. Was surprised to find a few canes like this today:
Found this interesting… Nova Red Rasp. This person grows one cultivar in their backyard and said their harvest was 400lbs this year and all towards making jellies and jams.
This seems to be a very good cultivar no matter if you live in a cold climate or a hot climate…it does well in both. Can tolerate the coldest winters and the hottest summers.
Good choice for a backup plan if you have winter damage or the issues that some red rasps have in warmer climates.
thats alot of picking!
Fabulous!
My JJ Aug 5…
They did not slip off easily… will try again tomorrow.
This is first year pcane production…the berries are definately larger on average than HR or FG or any of my blacks.
My child remembers blackberries from last year when he was four months old. They finally started ripening and as soon as he got one he shouted for more
@horna… my new granddaughter was born late June… next year i will have loads of earli glow strawberries, eversweet strawberries, raspberies red gold black purple, logans, obsidian and illini blackberries, goumi RG SS Carmine, mulberries gerardi and silk hope. Figs and persimmons, apples…
Cant wait to see her trying all this good stuff out here at 'Pop’s place".
I think the only red rasp i am going to add this coming year is ‘Nova’. Two of my Crimson Night plants out of 6 survived… so thats enough to get a start on those.
Nova- Nearly thornless. One of the most cold tolerant…yet also one of the most heat tolerant varieties that also fruits early. Flavor is described as somewhat tart… which i am tired of the sweet ones with little flavor. I like tart anyways. Also reports of it being less crumbly than most varieties is a plus to me. Final note is that it has very good storage…
Cant really find many flaws in this berry for me…
Pic is Heritage on left. Nova on Right.
My wife was less than enthusiastic about me putting in all these new berry plants instead of spending that time helping her with our baby girl. I’m thinking next year, when she’ll be old enough to walk around and amuse herself picking berries, I’ll be able to justify the time that when into planting and caring for them. : D
Not sure I’ll be able to pull the same logic with the hot peppers…
If anyone is looking for a ‘new’ raspberry… Chilcotin is now available in the US. It was bred in Canada (1965)…and is currently sold in Australia… but Planting Justice just got plants in.
So it seems its very cold hardy as well as heat tolerant…and reads to be nearly thornless.
I cant find much info on it other than stock photos…
Thanks - it was made at PARC Pacific Agri-Food Research Centre (outside Vancouver z8) and not sure how cold hardy their cultivars are for the Midwest and NorthEast
PARC has 2 much more recent releases that seem really good:
Squamish (which blew people away in the 2 year AHDB trial done in the UK (z7) - it was the top performer for 2 years among 33 varieties and beat the controls Tulameen and Octavia by a wide margin); very early for floricane, huge yields, excellent taste, easy to pick, “tolerance” to root rot
And BC 1-88-6
I would love to grow Squamish assuming it can live happily in z5 and not sure about that
Dont know how cold hardy they are
I bought 2 of them and 2 Black Butte blackberries while i was at it. Black Butte isnt worth growing…and i got ripped off by Willis Orchards as they sold me Kiowas saying that they were Black Butte. Will be interesting if these are true to name or not… they are a lost cultivar in the nursery trade and as far as i can tell nobody is propagating them. A gamble…and only for my hobby if they are true to name. Europeans seem to like them but there are too many good cultivars other than these to grow.
When my daughter was young (~30 years ago), we developed a ritual of picking berries every evening after I came home from work. The moment I entered the house, she’d shout “bellies!” The “bellies” (berries) included primocane raspberries, blueberries, seedless grapes, and even cherry tomatoes. It was a wonderful period when she and I could share an experience just the two of us – no mother or brothers.
I’d strongly encourage you to follow this model. But don’t just let her “walk around” by herself. Make it a special time for the two of you.
i do this with my 3 yr old niece and plan to do this with my new granddaughter. used to do it with my kids and Dad used to do it with us and them. its important to let them know where food comes from as well as special moments with them.
My 2 logan crowns, 4 pcanes… have put on a little over 50 ft of pcane so far this season.
That span from left side to right is 12 ft.
When they reach the end… and run off… they will dive and sprint to the ground below to tip root.
Well, I got my hands on OT. I’ll be sure to post whether it bears fruit for me, or if like my Tayberry, it spends years without fruit.
You’re killin’ me Kris. All these new varieties, and my wish-list keeps growing. I’ll have to wait to get this one though. My go-to raspberry place is currently out of stock.
Wow that’s exciting!
Wondering how much they should grow in the first year if I plant bare root plants or if I should expect they’re mostly doing stuff underground and will really grow next year?
I planted raspberries for the first time this year and I’m worried they’re not doing very well. They’ve been in 5 months and most are about 2-3" wide, 1-2 new shoots and just 1-2" tall. A few are taller but very sparse with the leaves.
I assume they’re being attacked (probably by japanese beetles, though I haven’t seen one on there) but that is a newer thing and I’ll spray them.
Maybe someone can tell me if they’re doing okay or if there is more I can do to help them or if I’ve done something wrong:
Months before planting, I had tested the soil and amended it with some ammonium sulfate (my garden has a slightly high pH). The space drains well. Tomatoes and squash plants nearby are doing well.
I put the bare root plants in 1st April. I put in drip irrigation on a bit of a whim and I’m glad I did because this year has been horribly dry. I was watering every day at first, but now every other day or so.
At the beginning I found multiple plants had been pulled out by something (maybe racoons?). I’d show up and they were pulled out of the ground and just tossed a few feet away - so I replanted them. That seems to have stopped, but several died after that trauma.
At one point I saw a deer eating one (they got pretty desperate this year eating tomato plants and raspberry canes after jumping my garden fence which is only 5’ but usually enough to keep them out when there are easier things to eat).
I just expected them to put on a bit more growth than they have and I don’t know what’s normal.
