HR raspberries… I had a bowl full… but my wife had to eat a handful brefore I got my picture made.
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my rasp. patch thats supposed to be prelude has been fruiting for a few weeks giving me big raspberries which are too big to be prelude and arent floricane fruiting. wish i knew what they were as they are very tasty and productive. about the size of my autumn brittens and fruit at the same time. very little spines with 6ft canes.
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So pretty!!!
Does HR stand for heritage red?
What do you think of them? We have some young vines.
Previously, all we had was red Latham, have you had that one and if so, how does it compare to heritage red?
@DragonflyLane … i bought 3 Herritage Reds in 2020… and one of those turned out to be some type of black raspberry… so only got 2 HRs.
Now I have close to 100 HR canes… they are my most dependable producer here… I get a awesome spring crop for about a month… then again in the fall mid August until first hard frost (normally in November) we get a nice harvest that sort of trickles in slowly for months.
They taste just like a red raspberry should to me… tart and sweet, nice flavor.
Later in the day yesterday… we went to visit our 14 month old grandaughter… and I took her that bowl of raspberries. She knows them well… every time she visits us… I take her around my food forest beds and orchard and she gets her fill of berries.
Yeaterday she ate that bowl full of HRs one at a time untill they were all gone.
She a actually prefers HR raspberries to figs.
I cant agree with her on that.
I have had JoanJ here and they were good berries… but once picked in a bowl with some HR… I could not tell them apart.
JoanJ died in our drought this year.
I have one other reddish raspberry… purple royalty. I find them to have a mild taste… HRs are more flavorful… but the Purple royalty are thriving here… producing many new primocanes by root shoot… and not one single cane died in our drought this year.
I might eventually try some other reds… but we have been very happy with our HRs… way better than any red raspberries we can buy at our local grocery stores.
They make some excellent jam too.
TNHunter
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Do you water them (how much?). I’m looking for a drought-tolerant variety to introduce to our upper orchard too far from the well to pump or carry water, which could survive with occasional rain and a good layer of mulch. Some of mine (some Hungarian variety) have managed to survive the drought but just in the sense that they are alive. No new growth since mid-July and definitely no fruit. I know blackberries and especially dewberries can take drought, but those are already coming out of ears… And they’re no raspberries…
I had heritage 6 yrs ago. i removed them because i only got half the crop before frost killed them. i may put another bed of them in. our frost date has moved forward a month so id get a full crop now. good to know Joan j tastes as good. i may add them instead. do they spread as prolifically as heritage?
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@steveb4 … HRs and Purp Royalty are my most agressive spreaders (by root shoot).
I started Purp Royalty and Joan J… a couple springs ago.
I now have 9 Purp Royalty and 0 Joan J.
I think the problem with JoanJ here may have been chill hours. Joan J did send out root shoots and early spring they would develop into some nice primocanes… but around June 1 they would start fruiting heavily… the floricanes had just finished fruiting and the new primocanes were starting to fruit.
JJ had no break in fruiting… and was determined to fruit a lot.
Then along came out extreme heat and drought this year… all my new JJ primocanes that were working hard to fruit again already… DIED.
In the same bed with the same watering…Purp Royalty and HRs and Bristol blacks survived.
Now up North you may not have that problem with JJ… they are sure worth a try… berries average a little larger than HR… nice flavor… heavy fruiter.
TNHunter
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@Tana … in a normal year i do not have to water cane fruit, bushes or fruit trees.
We get enough rain that they do not suffer and continue to grow and fruit well.
But every once in a while we get years like this one… just hotter and dryer than usual and lasting for a couple months. We had many days in the 95-100 degree range during our drought this year.
I can reach all my raspberry beds if I hook up 3 hose pipes… and I did that and gave them a good watering 2 times this summer.
My one remaining fall gold this years primocanes died.
Out of 100 HR primocanes… 8 died.
My Purp Royalty… started 2 crowns 2 springs ago… I just went and checked… and I have 9 nice primocanes out there now. None died.
My JoanJ … started 2 crowns 2 springs ago… a dang armadillo wrecked one. I had one crown left… it produced 2 nice primocanes this spring but they started fruiting June 1… and were trying to develop a bunch of berries when our drought hit… that wiped them out. Both pcanes died.
Of all my raspberries Purple Royalty seem to be the most determined to live and propigate itself… with HRs coming in a close second.
Both of those have thorns… with purp royalty having a little more agressive thorns. To me that is a plus. Deer do not mess with them and birds get very little fruit from them.
TNHunter
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Thanks! Purple Royslty would be apparently the better choice for me as I want to plant them in deer territory, but unlike Heritage, they’re not on offer here. It would seem that everyone hates the thorns. 
I’ll give Heritage a go.
my royalty has been stricken with root rot the last couple years despite them being on a sloped area. the only way it has survived is sending out shoots before the mother plant dies. i need to move it to another spot. not a fan of my clay.
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just ate a bowl of my non preludes with some unpasteurized fresh cream fresh from the cow this morning. it was fabulous. just got 15lbs of sweet cream butter from her that im going to convert to ghee. im done using ultra processed seed oils. only lard, tallow, ghee and olive oil. the lard and tallow i get for free where i butcher. the butter for very little from the same place. homemade sweet cream butter from grass feed
cows is leagues better than anything i get at the store.
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Just got another box of avocados from Marta, mostly for the seeds but Mexicola is a pretty tasty avocado in its own right. Mexicola on the left, Aravaipa on the right.
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Agreed. I used to love the milk truck when I was a kid. Best chocolate milk ever.
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@steveb4 sounds like you have a great source for ghee, tallow and lard… and good raw milk…
Just keep in mind that if you are in ketosis… you can eat lots fats like ghee tallow lard because your body is burning fat for energy (producing ketones). Those fats do not get stored in your body… they are burned to produce energy.
Most humans easily get into ketosis by eating a max of 20 grams carbs daily… 5-7 days.
If you eat lots of carbs and fat daily… (standard american diet) that is when you are heading for trouble eventually. That causes your body to store most of that fat you eat… you pack on the weight, get high blood pressure, cholesterol, etc…
I have been doing carnivore diet for the last week… no carbs, nothing but meat. Hoping to improve an arthritus issue that has been bothering me since early summer.
Not easy doing carnivore when I have raspberries CHE Figs and Persimmons ripening.
I can still enjoy seeing my family eat them.
TNHunter
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That might be an interesting new variety with that size!