Cardinal(TM) non-astringent persimmon

Edible landscaping confirmed that Gil Ya was in fact Izu.
This year’s heat wave has meant that 9 out of 9 of my persimmon bark grafts have taken. Last year I got 1 success out of 6! No difference in technique, just heat levels. And they all took within 2 weeks with really solid growth. I now hope they dont get fried by the 100+ heat wave we are getting.

Yes, everything seems to have survived 105 yesterday, aside from the Cardinal. Will be interesting to see what has regained turgor in the morning tomorrow after 115 today and before another round of it tomorrow. Currently 107 on the North side of my house and climbing.

Even the invasive weeds are wilting, tansy ragwort I failed to remove looks sad :slight_smile:

Can can wrap your grafts with aluminum foil to prevent the sun from drying them out if you are experiencing a heatwave. I did that with my summer jujube grafts. Just don’t cover the them completely so the new growth gets some light.

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Thanks for the suggestion.

I’m mostly just trying to survive the heat myself. I’m a lightweight and consider 90 degrees to be hardship weather. This is literally the hottest weather I’ve ever experienced, and on record here. Prior, low triple digits for 1 or 2 days was the hottest. Today and tomorrow are forecast at 115 degrees.

To the extent that the fruit get attention, its trying to make sure the roots have water.

I’ll have to regroup after and see what can be helped.

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I’m in the Cardinal club as well. Hoping it’s truly earlier ripening than Izu. Also hopeful that it proves to be cold hardy like some of the Korean varieties are.

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Did somebody claim it is earlier ripening than Izu?

OGW doesn’t say against what varieties they are comparing. Hopefully they “have seen” Izu, but sometimes descriptions just get copied and reprinted.

I think their marketing copy claimed it was the earliest ripening kaki persimmon they’ve ever seen. So, I’m assuming they’re comparing it to at least everything in their own inventory, including Izu, which they sell some years.

Let’s hope it’s true. We

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I have those temps every day and saijo loves it

If I were forced to live in such a climate I might have to rethink my hobby - and probably other life choices too :slight_smile:

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Have you asked Cliff England about Jo Choo? He would probably know about it.

I have not.

Well, one of my two bare root virginiana rootstocks from Burnt Ridge, planted this winter, is just now leafing out in July. The other is likely dead, but we’ll see.

Update: I decided to let OGW know that the puny tree of mine had died, in spite of their policy of requiring notification of failure to leaf out by July 1st (seems arbitrary, my seedling virginiana leafed out after that), they offered me a store credit since they don’t have any Cardinal in stock. I knew I was outside of policy, and didn’t specifically request redress, but told them I wanted them to know that it was the smallest potted tree I’ve ever received from a retail nursery, and it was the only potted tree I planted this season that failed.

It was brittle, and broke at or near the graft union when prodded:


Yes, its unmulched. Chipdrop hasn’t come through for me this year. Everyone has taken up gardening.

Even the Olympian fig that I directly ran over with the lawn mower, after it leafed out, in the summer is recovering.

I’ll be looking for some dormant scionwood of Korean, super-early-ripening non-astringent precocious kaki this winter if anybody has enough growth to spare some.

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I can send Cliff England’s Chinebuli.

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Thank you. I may take you up on that. When does it ripen relative to other kaki? A description I found says mid-season. Our summer gets hot, but its pretty short.

I haven’t gotten ripedruit from it yet (had it several years), so I am not sure. Cliff said it’s his hardiest non-astringent persimmon, that’s why I have it

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My Chinebuli has a few fruit on it. I’ll report back if they hold to ripening.

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Sorry to heard about your Cardinal persimmon tree.And I’m glad that they ware willing to work with you OGW that’s what I like about them because they would stand by and help you out by giving costumers a replacement or credit no doubt about that!

Not like my experience with edible landscaping when I purchased a Nikita’s Gift and the box arrived open and the tree broken in half and notified to them twice about it but never heard a thing from them. Not even a phone call or email, what poor customer service they have. I will never buy from them again or referring them to anyone.

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My Chinebuli ended up dying. Inchon has been the only true kaki to survive for me over the course of seven years. It’s finally fruiting for the first time, Inchon is, and I’m looking forward to seeing if it ripens before the first frost. I wish my Chinebuli would’ve survived too.

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