Many of the people on this form keep chickens; most for more than one reason. I have only been keeping them for 3 years now and would like to invite others to share their experiences using CM as a fertilizer, where it has produced desired results and not.
The majority of my CM and wood shaving bedding has been placed in slow compost piles mixed with oak and maple leaves as well as other various green and brown organic material. I cant really speak to how well this stuff works as a fertilizer for growing anything. I havent moved most of it for a couple of years aside from the odd turn with the compost fork every few months.any suggestions?
Direct application of uncomposted manure( 2-3 month old)manure gathered from the coop has given me success in my organic corn beds and other areas in the garden.
My experience with fruit trees and 2-3 month old CM is limited to a small application i made to a couple of one year old peach trees in the spring (may) which subsequently put on 3 feet of new growth last season. I should also mentioned these trees didnt want to go dormant come the late fall, holding their green foliage( along with a nearby apple) until late november. The verdixt is still out on resulting winter injury which i will find out
Chicken manureā¦best of the farm manure. (Strong so a little does a lot, and no weeds.)
Straight from the coop into the furrow for planting potatoes in March or April worked great.
A side dress for corn or tomatoes, etc. produced similar results to 33-0-0 fertilizerāwith the caveat that if it doesnāt rain, or you canāt water generously, youāll burn and kill your plants if youāre not careful using un-composted manure. My experience was from years ago; when I could let the āfree rangeā chickens roam without any worries except maybe a fox catching oneā¦or getting some holes pecked in a ripe tomato.
i agree. more is less with chic. manure. i scatter a few small shovels full around each of my plants/ trees then cover with 4in. of green wood chips. fresh or composted doesnāt seem to make a difference as its getting covered with chips. usually all that is needed. my father used nothing else but manure and a little wood ash in his 1/2 acre garden and got great results over the years.
I let mine roam last year and they tilled up almost my entire 1/4 acre backyardā¦since then they been limited to their 10Ć10 coop and fenced in run.the good news is now I can plant something other than grass around my dozen or so fruit trees. Im thinking maybe clover?
Sounds good. Clover adds nitrogen.
However, if yours isnāt an organic operation, when you spray the fruit trees, you will kill a lot of honeybees on the clovers under the trees.
The plan is to try to be organic. We shall see once the apple maggot and codling moth pressure sets in if I can get any fruit without nuking the place!
Took this picture Sunday. Iāve been putting my 8 layers in the tractor and dragging it around the orchard. I figure the small amount of manure will be good for the trees and the chickens get the fresh grass.
Right now Iām getting between three and seven per day. We keep them unwashed on the counter, labeled with a sharpie. This morning we had around 30 eggs waiting to be eaten. I have been making homemade whole wheat English muffins and I will cook 4 eggs on a cast iron pan and serve me and my wife an English muffin with 2 fried egg topped with broccoli sprouts (home grown off course) for breakfast most days. The kids get scrambled eggs.
My chickens are doing the same. Cant have any mulch to speak of. It gets thrown around and I am constantly raking it back up. My solution was comfrey on the base of the tree outside of a center in which I have pea gravel. The comfrey is amazing. Prolific, nitrogen fixer, competes successfully with weeds, provides enough to cover the ground and then some. I do a chop and drop when it gets too high. The chickens scatter that a bit but not like the mulch. We have a new run, but I still let them roam and forage. They dont realize how good they have it!
Chicken manure is a great hot garden fertilizer. I used it frequently when i kept chickens. Im going to link this post Does anyone else grow and produce cackle fruit? because i think there is some good information on chickens in that post. No doubt the same people interested in one post find the other fascinating. This is another similar older post Get your wife some chickens - #12 by clarkinks . I briefly discuss manure here Understanding Plant Nutrition but all manures have different nutrient content. Chicken manure specifically was discussed here Fresh Chicken Manure on Apple Trees?. Im afraid to post the number of times chicken manure has been brought up through the years but i saw a full page with the search " chicken manure" Search results for 'Chicken' - Growing Fruit manure&skip_context=true
Iām planning eventually get all my mulch around my plants covered with fruiting and medicinal ground covers like arctic raspberry and creeping thyme. then ill let the chics in there to do their thing. i too tried free ranging them in my food forest. i had all my wood chip mulch scattered in 1 day!
Your tree floors look amazing, well mulched, no weeds. I read something interesting recently regarding tree supports, of which I have many. It said that anything over a whip should not be attached to a post or support because it denys the tree trunk the ability to grow stronger with wind sway. This is not where I read the original information, but does speak to it. Do you think there is truth in this? I have trees staked to straighten their unwieldy shape. Perhaps I should just accept how they are.
Dwarf apples probably require staking. Some simi-dwarfs.
But, I can vouch for the case of NOT staking unless you NEED to. The tree trunk will be tougher. (You have a staked tree for a few years and remove the stake, the odds of damage or blowing over in a windstorm increase verses a tree that was never staked.)
Many dwarfing rootstocks of fruit have such small root systemsā¦that the first year you have a big crop, the tree will probably flop to the ground with half of the root popped completely out of the ground! (And in the summer time, that usually means loss of the tree.)
If I were planting maple tree, either container or balled and burlappedā¦.I wouldnāt stake it. One of a dozen might blow crooked in a storm, and I would generally just straighten it up.
(And add a stake at that time if I thought it was required.) I planted over 300 trees at a new Walmart store one time, none were staked. And none ever leaned over enough to be a problem.
But, genetically dwarf roots supporting a big crop of fruitā¦best have it staked BEFORE it blows over.
Another exampleā¦you have a forestā¦and trees seldom blow over.
You remove all the big trees in logging.
Then, a big storm comes through and many of the ones that were left get blown over, broken, or become crooked.
The were not used to the full force of nature when supported.
I have experienced this myself when a large area was cleared for a new driveway. Trees that remained were originally quite upright and became swayed over time. I had not remembered that, but it makes sense. I think I will remove some stakes for trees which should not have them.
I tried staking one dwarf Enterprise tree several years ago after feeling like it was a āloose tooth.ā The string broke last year so now none of my trees are really staked. I do stake a cage around them to keep the deer off for the first few years and I feel this helps somehow. Thanks for the compliments. Just keep adding woodchips!
Iāve been thinking about adding some chickens and was wanting to know if the CM is the only fertilizer I would need for blackberries, fig, apple, muscadine and a fruit cocktail tree?
