Clark's Crabapple

Re: own-root ‘Clark’s Crab’
This will probably be of interest only to a minority, but thought I’d post an update. A couple years ago I had gotten a few grafts of ‘Clark’s Crab’ to take on short pieces of rootstock that I then buried the graft unions on. Although, none of them pushed roots above the graft after the first year, I just checked and two out of the three ended up pushing roots above the graft in their second year buried. Those two had enough root that I was able to remove the rootstock entirely and now they are officially “own-root”!

I’d like to try using them to do stool propagation, but am a bit on the fence about it given that it could be about a two year rotation rather than the one year rotation often possible with stool propagation for apples…

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That should give great information about the true habit and traits of the variety.

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That’s info I wish was generally available for more varieties. Too many people are willing to assume that most varieties can’t do well on their own roots despite many of them never even having been observed and documented.

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I am starting some apple seedlings just to start own rooting varieties in the near future.

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me too. I’ve been collecting seeds from the wild apples and the ones off of the farm i work at for the last year. they’re all in the freezer. making a 4’ x12’ raised bed just for growing out seedlings this spring. got lots of different seeds to try out. ill probably offer my extras to anyone on here that wants to try them out. if nothing else they will be super cold and disease hardy. many of the trees i got them off are easily over 100 yrs old. ill probably graft the parent tree to the ones i keep as the seedlings aren’t true to the parent.

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The people here in Kansas have really been saying nice things about this apple. One comment is that it is the first to produce. Many love the flavor like me, but be cautious it doesn’t produce too much, or it hurts the flavor like with any fruit. It seems that it loves direct sunshine. Hope everyone found some scions or trees this year. Special thanks to @hambone and many other kind orchardists who have kindly been giving them away to those having trouble finding them!

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i think that’s why mine tasted kind of bitter. i should have probably removed the flowers last spring and let it grow bigger before allowing it to fruit .it wasn’t even 5ft yet. and it was its 2nd year in ground. i had 23 fruit on that tiny tree. hoping they are better this summer. i think they will be. it was mulched heavily with goat bedding and will be again this spring.

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You have to be careful doing that. I stunted out a pear tree letting it fruit to much to early. Years later it’s still like 4 foot tall.

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well in my defense it had like 50 fruitlets that set on it and a chipmunk removed all by 23 so i thought it would be ok since it was ‘’ thinned’'. obviously i was wrong. ill put the ferts to it so hopefully it bulks up some this summer.

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I had a row of pears in hard alkaline soil that had a bitter almost metallic taste on ohxf333 . It took about 3 years until the off flavor went away. On other parts of my land i had no problem at all with that off taste on fruit trees. I attributed it to not enough roots yet.

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I planted out 8 Clark’s crab trees on b118 a few weeks ago. I’ll make sure to thin any flowers this year to try and drive the growth a bit. Look forward to seeing how they do here!

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Possibly you mean Emboss-o-tag:

https://www.amazon.com/Emboss-Tag-Gardening-Durability-Applications/dp/B01LP3KFWS

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I’ve been using these with an inscribing tool. They come with a permanent outdoor marker.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09S3JXZMP?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

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I put a Clark’s Crab and a Whitney Crab in the ground today. 30th Parallel editions. (Thank you very much.) I think they’ll like their new spots. Hopefully the deer don’t find them before I have added a bit of protection.

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My sister and her husband do this.
They don’t do any pruning though, and the apple trees have turned into very interesting bushes with ball shapes with branches down to the ground, I’m interested how they will actually bear, I’ve never seen trees like that.

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I don’t make the joined fence edges permanent. I just bend wire from one edge around the other and then to make it extra secure, I ties it with some of my 4000 foot roll of lovely bright orange bailing twine. When I need to weed or prune, I just cut the twine and pull open the bent fence. It’s not fun, but it’s doable once a year or so.

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For all you AI lovers:

I’ve conducted a deep dive into the GrowingFruit.org forum to summarize information about the apple variety known as Clark’s Crab based on posts and discussions available on the site. This is a detailed synthesis of what’s shared by forum members, particularly from threads mentioning Clark’s Crab, focusing on firsthand observations and avoiding speculation beyond the data provided.

Summary of Clark’s Crab Apple Variety

Origin and Development:

*** Clark’s Crab is a seedling variety developed by an individual referred to as “clarkinks,” a forum member from Kansas who has been breeding apples for over 14 years (as of a February 16, 2025, post). It emerged from a personal, small-scale breeding project started around 2011, aimed at creating unique apples rather than commercial production.**

*** It’s not a traditional hybrid between a crabapple and a standard apple but is classified as a crabapple due to its smaller fruit size (typically under 2 inches in diameter, aligning with the common crabapple definition). The exact parentage isn’t fully detailed, but it’s part of a broader effort involving first- and second-generation crosses.**

Physical Characteristics:

*** Fruit Appearance: Clark’s Crab is notable for its striking visual appeal. The fruit grows in dense clusters, often likened to “clusters of grapes,” which hang heavily on the tree. Posts from October 16, 2022, and January 6, 2023, highlight this clustering trait, with photos showing abundant, small apples on top-worked trees at the**

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orchard and nursery in Kansas.

*** Size and Color: The apples are small, fitting the crabapple category (less than 2 inches), with a vivid red coloration that stands out. They’re described as visually impressive, especially when laden on branches.**

*** Tree Structure: The trees can be grafted onto existing stock, as evidenced by top-working mentioned in posts. They appear vigorous, with fruit production starting within 2-3 years of grafting.**

Flavor and Use:

*** Taste: Specific flavor notes are sparse in the forum, but Clark’s Crab isn’t highlighted as a standout for fresh eating compared to other crabs like Wickson or Chestnut, which are praised for sweetness and complexity (April 20, 2016, thread). This suggests it might lean toward the tart, tannic profile typical of many crabapples, though no direct tasting notes confirm this.**

*** Culinary Potential: Its small size and clustering make it a candidate for cider or jelly, common uses for crabapples due to their high pectin content. However, no explicit mention of its cider or jelly quality appears in the threads, unlike Dolgo or Wickson, which are frequently cited for such purposes.**

*** Ornamental Value: The heavy fruit clusters and persistent red apples suggest strong ornamental appeal, especially in fall and winter, aligning with crabapples’ role as landscape trees.**

Growing and Availability:

*** Adaptability: Clark’s Crab has gained popularity in Kansas, with successful cultivation at the**

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orchard, indicating it thrives in Zone 6b/7a climates (typical for central Kansas). Posts imply it’s hardy and productive without extensive care, though specific growing conditions aren’t detailed.

*** Propagation: The variety is being grafted and sold by**

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(Mike), who recognized its potential after seeing it at clarkinks’ property years ago. Clarkinks expresses gratitude that Mike’s efforts have prevented the variety from being “wasted,” suggesting it’s not patented or trademarked, keeping it accessible to growers (January 6, 2023).

*** Distribution: As of January 2023, it’s noted as an emerging variety, with scions or trees available through niche growers like**

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, though it’s not yet mainstream like Dolgo or Centennial.

Forum Reception:

*** Clarkinks takes pride in Clark’s Crab, emphasizing its visual impact over commercial intent. In a January 6, 2023, post, he encourages others to “try it,” citing a photo of Mike beside a laden tree as sufficient persuasion. The community seems intrigued, with mentions in threads like “New Apple Seedling Varieties” (October 16, 2022) showing interest in its unique traits.**

*** There’s no extensive discussion on disease resistance (e.g., apple scab, fire blight), yield specifics, or long-term performance, possibly because it’s still relatively new and under evaluation by hobbyists.**

Conclusion:

Clark’s Crab is a visually striking crabapple variety from a Kansas breeder’s seedling project, characterized by small, red, grape-like fruit clusters that offer significant ornamental value. While its flavor profile isn’t deeply explored on GrowingFruit.org, its appeal lies in its aesthetics and potential for cider or preserves, typical of crabapples. It’s gaining traction among enthusiasts in Kansas, propagated through grafting, and reflects a grassroots effort to share a unique apple without commercial restrictions. For growers in similar climates, it’s a promising addition, especially for those valuing beauty and pollination support over fresh-eating qualities.

If you’d like me to dig further into specific aspects (e.g., grafting success, taste comparisons), let me know—I can cross-reference other threads or posts within the site!

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I started planting my first fruit trees about the same time we got a puppy. He helpfully pruned all 4 of my honey crisp apple trees low to the ground when they were newly planted and they have had to grow as multi-stemmed monstrosities. Unfortunately I don’t have any pictures of them but they do produce delicious apples now

Mine aren’t quite ‘bushes’ but are close and do bear apples

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I grafted a 10-12 inch Clark’s Crab scion onto my Liberty espalier on March 31, 2024, and I picked 3 fruit from it on October 14! I would have left them longer, but a squirrel had started chewing on one of them so it was time. Flavor and texture were great. I kept one in the fridge and just ate it in late February. Flavor was still great. Texture was a little bit softer but still firm. Very cool apple – can’t wait to eat more!!

Nate in St. Paul, MN




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mine stayed green like that until late oct. when i picked them. still had some bitterness but the tree was only 4ft. tall and had 23 on it.

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