I am looking to see if I can locate an empress plum this late, and am seeing a few sites referencing these as Italian Plums or Italian Prune Plums.
Are they a different way to call the same plum, completely different, or is an Italian Plum/Italian Prune Plum just a class of plums that Empress are a part of?
These are two completely different plums. Both are European plums, which is a distinct group of plums as opposed to Japanese plums and American plums (another two groups).
OK, I guess there is just a lot of misinformation out there, such as these. Thanks.
During a visit to my grandma's country home in the Midwest, I remarked on her beautiful Italian prune plum tree, waxing poetic about the desserts I could make with the small, egg-shaped fruit that's shrouded in amethyst skin.
There are different varieties of prune plums. Many grown for the obvious reason, drying them, or cooking with them or making a confit. Rarely are they touted for fresh eating. Just depends upon the variety.
Scott Smith helps educated us about Euro plums. I use this link as my reference many times.
We were discussing different European plums and one dimension that might get a bit lost today is the group the plum came from. So, below is an except from Plums of New York on the different groups of plums. One of my aims is to have one or two good plums from each group. Note these are just the domestica groups, the mirabelles and damsons are separate species in their own right. There are several good gages, e.g. Green Gage, Bavays, and Transparent. Of the Yellow Egg plums, Coe’s Golden Dro…
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Mamuang - that is a great reference.
Nil - you are awesome. Funny thing is that I was ordering a peach from Cummins, and when I searched by looking through the plums, I couldn’t find any Empress, but sure enough, there is one. Thanks for pointing that out!! Now I have to understand how the Krymsk1 root stock will do in my conditions (though at first glance, it looks good).
There are many thread about Euro plum here. I’d say searching for info from this forum, you will get more reliable and first-handed experience info.
On the top of a page, you will see a looking glass symbol. That is our search function. Click on the looking glass, then, type in a key word like Euro plums, many threads will show up.
For example, I typed in Favorite Euro plums, this thread (and several others showed up). Check this link out.
I’ve grown up with Japanese plums, particularly Santa Rosa. They grow well here and are totally delicious. But now that I’m a home orchardist, my attention is turning to Euro plums and their ilk, since these are an unknown for me, for the most part. I’ve had Seneca and a few others from farmer’s markets, but this really is sort of a mystery to me.
I did plant a Reine des Mirabelles and Pearl last year (i might get a Mirabelles or 2 this year, but no Pearl). I was planning on doing a multi-g…
My Euro plums are on Marianna 2624. I like them because they are medium-sized trees, all pruned to open center.
Does this bloom the same time as Stanley or NY9?