I put the items into a cart and proceed to check out through PP. PP asked for the normal check out with mailing address and my credit card infos.
Tony.
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Interesting.
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Tony, I use paypal for buying and selling. Paypal will still take the money but not necessarily pay him. Much of the funds might be in limbo?
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This is why I will never ever use PP again. PP should not be taking money if they have froze his account. PP want their transaction fees but offers buyers and sellers little protection 
I still hope the best for himā¦ he has dug a big hole, and if he just sent out 10 a week from Sept - Oct he might find his customers more forgiving.
At this point his mother trees should be huge and he could save himself a lot of headaches by automating his watering. (I did mine a couple years bac, but need to get a new timer/filter and check/expand my lines.
I almost wish he wasnāt facing legal issues as these will likely drain whatever resources and drive he still has to make this a success. If he were local, Iād be there helping him to make this work.
Scott
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Please do not take what I said as a given. It was only a thought. I have worked for years with paypal and have not had a problem. 
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I like PayPal. It limits my exposure to fraud and theft and fees are very fair. Same with eBay. Go to a brick and mortar auction house, and you will never complain about eBay again. Last time I looked they took up to 40 percent.
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You could ask paypal that, people were saying that paypal suspended his account. Now Itās working again. I do not want to over think this confusing mess about what paypal is doing and not doing.
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I bought x2 rooted cuttings from Ampersand (thanks). They arrived today. I am very happy with purchase. I am sending out cheque to him tomorrow for the plants.
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I quit ebay recently over a non received purchase. The seller kept asking for more time to track my item after i contacted him and eBay. Eventually disappeared (ie. No responses to emails) then ebay tells me my time to get a refund is over. I dispute it with eBay and next day ebay tells me they sided with seller since I never returned item (HELLO, how to return item never received???) Ebay even removed my ability to give seller a negative rating. I started dispute through PayPal and luckily just under 6 months limit so seller refunded my money through PPP. So i will also continue using pp but never ebay again.
For what itās worth, reading this thread has been informative and members have been remarkably civil with each other, even if they have to vent at times. I totally understand cause i hate getting ripped off as well. This is one of the most supportive and positive online communities Iāve experienced. I am head mod of a fish forum (BCaquaria.com) so I know how forums can get dragged down by trolls, bickering and unnecessary drama. I now spend more time on this forum than any other because of the positive vibes and helpfulness among its members.
Anthony
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It does have positive vibes, as it reflects the founder if you ask me.
The grass is always greener on the other side. Iām mostly a seller on EBay and feel like they way favor the buyer. I wonāt go into it, but nothing will ever change my opinion on that.
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I agree Ebay favors the buyers. I had a guy ask for a refund on a fig plant that was delivered via USPS priority mail with tracking. He got his refund. His beef was I shipped too soon. He asked for a delay Monday afternoon on a sale 24 hrs earlier. We exchanged messages, on Ebay, Sunday evening with no mention of travel. He waited 3 months to ask for the refund.
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Iāve never sold anything om ebay and listening to you guys makes
me glad I never have. But I have bought things on ebay, never figs,
and have found that whenever I have a bad experience, and post a
negative rating and comment, ebay deletes it after a short time.
So donāt automatically believe that sellers have 100% positive ratings,
because ebay censors negative ratings.
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I never sell but have bought from ebay and got shafted many times. I donāt buy anymore because they use PP and I will never ever use PP again! They protection policy is a joke! I recently bought 2 figs from Ampersand. It all went very well. We trusted each other and he worked with me for the cheapest shipping option. He didnāt even ask for payment until I got my fig trees!!!
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Iām sure that both what you mention and what I mentioned are fairly common.
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Even though itās not perfect I like EBay and PP for that matter, Most buyers are great, and the things I bought were awesome. Sometimes I have auction grade material to sell and most auction houses take 40%, EBay with PP fees is nowhere close.
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That place is a scam he tells you that you have to wait because after 120 days PayPal canāt do anything about it. File a claim with your bank, PayPal and local police department.
This guy is a joke I remember when everybody was rushing out buying cuttings from him. Here is what he bought with everyoneās money Fig Orchard Tour 9-12-17 - YouTube
His site now says
A false claim is being promoted online at a competitorās site that the cuttings being bought by new customers are the same cuttings that were bought by previous customers, and that Iām re-selling the same cuttings over and over again. That is complete nonsense. The cuttings needed to fulfill all of the overdue orders for cuttings and trees have already been identified and set aside for that purpose, and the cuttings being sold to new customers are simply the EXTRA cuttings that arenāt needed for those old orders. The new customers arenāt taking cuttings away from old customers; to the contrary, they are buying extra cuttingsā¦and by doing so, are giving me the ability to send out old orders. So the new customers are only helping the old customers, and are in no way hurting the old customers.
It has also been falsely claimed at the competitorās site that these new orders are advance orders that arenāt going to be delivered until the distant future. That is also a nonsensical claim (one of many such false and defamatory claims made there). The new orders are for immediate shipment, not for delayed shipment, which makes perfect sense if you think about it: the cuttings are ready right now, so thereās not even any reason to do advance orders right now. The average turnaround time for new orders is 24-48 hours; in other words, they ship out within 1-2 days on average from when I receive payment, and the customers receive their cuttings a few days later.
After I finish shipping out all of the overdue cuttings orders in a week or two, Iāll turn to shipping out the overdue tree orders. Why am I shipping cuttings now and not trees? Because the big harvest of cuttings is just now occurring, and it is this harvest of cuttings that will supply all of the wood needed to fill all of the cuttings orders and tree orders. The cuttings can ship out immediately, but the trees need to be created by rooting the cuttings, which has already begun concurrently with the cuttings sale:
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Sounds like a classic ponzi scheme to me.
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ā¦ of course a ponzi scheme needs to hide the fact that they are paying off old investors from the new in order to survive, they donāt so much as hint at it.
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