Flavor Grenade

I don’t know yet! :grin:

I’m a relatively new stone fruit grower. I’ve only gotten a dozen or so fruit from a single tree before (Sweet Treat Pluerry, Santa Rosa plum), so no thinning…

I’m just going by what I’ve read about FG and what looks like a lot of fruit that pollinated on mine in it’s first year perhaps holding fruit.

I’m going to wait for a few weeks and see how it looks.

I’ve read for larger fruit (not cherries as an example) you don’t want more than one fruit every, say, 4-6 inches. This allows the tree to fully size and mature the fruit. I’d especially think that is true for a younger tree. It also helps avoid the tree alternating every other year fruiting as it doesn’t deplete the trees resources as much.

I’ll give it a shot and see how it goes this year.

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That’s a pretty low set for FG. On branches like that it’s partly how much weight will the branch support. The lower branch looks OK as is. The upper I’d take off one or two. There are usually hidden fruit that seem to appear out of nowhere.

I’d be surprised if any of those big ones fall off on their own. I had one fruit bigger than that fall off one tree this year so far. To be fair I don’t have much set on second leaf trees.

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You and me both :slight_smile:

I’ll share pics if/when I see actual fruit set on mine.

I took that photo because that particular branch has sized more than other locations, probably because of the relatively low set.

I’m not taking many photos yet of a more representative branch since they re just getting past shuck and are small.

Yes on other branches the fruit is clustered much closer together.

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This is more typical. 2-3 at each leaf node / flower cluster. You need too zoom to see them at this stage.

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So at what size fruit do people usually see the appearance of plum curculio?

It maybe there really aren’t many in my area as I don’t know what fruit needs to be around the area to support a population…

My Flavor Grenade fruit are getting to a decent size and I see no bug activity…yet.

About pinky nail to thumb size is at risk. Any night that doesnt drop rapidly into the 50s will see curculio activity, especially if its humid.

I think it’s good news for now then. I have many bigger than that by far. It may be we simply don’t have much of an occurrence of them here, or I’m being naive and they just haven’t found the tree yet.

I would check the fruit for strikes daily if possible and spray that day if you start seeing them.

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Here you can see the size of my fruit now. Not a blemish on any of them.

I know it’s early in the year, so plenty of time for other issues, but I hope this means perhaps PLC isn’t in my area.

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Those same two fruit today.

I’m wondering how long into the summer these actually ripen… I just don’t see them waiting all the way to September /October with the growing season here…

I think it’s time to bag them. Should I try my first Surround spray? Never used it before. Hmmm.

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Nice looking fruits, really growing fast! Not sure what your insects are but I do not have to use surround on mine since so far I’ve been lucky with very few insect issues. If I can finish trapping my squirrels before summer my biggest pest problem will be solved. Surround works well on fruit that it easily washed off from, but unless you plan to peal your plums I might suggest bagging rather that using surround. Mainly because if they need to get soft to be ripe, washing them well enough to eat the peeling may not work well. So unless you have a lot bagging may be the best protection for plums. I do use surround on peaches and apples, and it washes off them wit warm soapy water. I actually grafted a few Flavor grenades this spring so thanks for posting Phil!
Dennis
Kent, Wa

Thanks for the advice Dennis.

The tree set about 50 fruit. I’ll probably bag as many as is practical… Maybe some with two in a bag.

I do have a family of squirrels in my yard so…

As far as other insects, I really don’t know what to expect really. I’ve only had a handful of plum and pluerry on my trees last year with first fruit.

It seems the birds were the biggest issue as they’d take a few bites and of course leave the fruit exposed. I just ate them crunchy and sour… Still better to eat a underripe homegrown fruit than a sack of water from the store.

In my old property in Wilmington, DE, it ripened mid-late September, so I would say early-mid Aug for you. If you like em tart, you can pick them yellow to orange, if you prefer sweet (like me) then wait till they are solid red (more like orange red, not dark or bright red, if I remember correctly).

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Let’s just say I’ll be very glad to get a chance to try them at any state.

I’m quite pessimistic until I see it. Then it’s a wonderful surprise!

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Do you have squirrels or raccoons? These can cause you to loose the whole crop. Other than that, bag the fruits and spray fungicide.

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Yes on the squirrels.

We’ll see how they handle the bags. I’m sure they can get past them if they want to though.

I need to ensure I have easy to get to water for them. My understanding is that squirrels only bite fruit for the water when they need it.

Years ago I had an unknown pear tree. They’d take a few bites of the fruit but never removed them or ate them.

Squirrels love stone fruit, specially sweet ones. You need to practice trapping! The bags are nothing for squirrels, they work with insects and birds.

To be honest, it’s quite unheard of to trap squirrels in a residential area around here. In all my years living in suburbia I’ve never heard of it or even thought to…

My solution, ultimately, might be what Richard has done with individual cages.

I haven’t noticed Richard posting this spring.

@Richard Everything going well for you this spring?

It was quite unheard of where I lived too, there is always a first :blush:. It helped that my only neighbor who can see my backyard hated them.

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