Gigantea Goumi and Wang Bo Goumi graft grow journal 2025

Today we grafted 4 Wang Bo Goumi and 2 Gigantea Goumi on Autumn Olive rootstocks.
We dug up the Autumn Olive rootstocks last April potted them an let grow all last summer.
We did cleft grafts wrapped in parafilm then splicing tape over the parafilm. I wrapped the scion with only parafilm.
Im disabled with no finger function so my mom does all the grafting I just talk her through how to do it.

I’m going to keep this thread updated with their progress.

The Wang Bo scions are from nuttrees.net
Wang Bo is supposed to be larger than Carmine an almost as big as Gigantea

The Gigantea scion is from a private collector and I can’t disclose their information.
Gigantea is supposed to be the largest Goumi variety






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How exciting! Did you get your Wang Bo scions from Cliff? Where did you find Gigantea? I haven’t heard of that one.

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Very impressive that is sounds like you talked your mother through physically doing the grafts. I assume it was new to her.

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@lmvian I can’t wait to see how they do!
The Wang Bo scions are from Cliff at nuttrees.net
Wang Bo is supposed to be larger than Carmine an almost as big as Gigantea

The Gigantea scion is from a private collector but I can’t disclose their information.
Gigantea is supposed to be the largest Goumi variety

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btw, the nuttrees link doesn’t work. I assume there’s an extra t there, but I can’t find it even without the extra.

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Try nuttrees.net

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@murky Thank you yep she did great :+1:

I’ll be really interested in following your results. I think you might be one of the few people in the US to grow Gigantea. I also haven’t seen anyone on the forum fruit Wang Bo yet so I will be interested in the results for both varieties. I also think it will be really interesting to learn how the two compare because there was some speculation that they might be similar.

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I’m curious too. You’ll have do regular status updates :+1:

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@Cgardener @EJh i really hope the Gigantea takes. I only had one very skinny scion enough for 2 grafts. Ill definitely keep this thread updated regularly. Im really interested in the sizes. I have Carmine in the ground. Cliff England at nuttrees.net has recently aquired Gigantea but he said its a young graft an will be a few years before he has scions available

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Your carmine is starting 3rd full year in ground right? This is mines 1st full yr in ground (planted last spring).

i need to learn to graft at some point :joy: maybe next year I’ll try Wang bo, depending on how big my carmine gets this year.

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@EJh yep that’s right. Its leafing out now. Ive read they take pretty easy grafting

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I just ordered my Carmine about a week ago, it was supposed to arrive today but it didn’t. I just hope that it would arrive in good conditions!

I also got sweet scarlet just a few days ago!

I’m really interested to hear the developments of your grafted Gigantea so I would be following along! Good luck @Fishinjunky

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@Ruben thank you. I have Carmine i really like it

GOUMI GRAFTS UPDATE DAY 17

all 4 of the Wang Bo grafts have buds swelling and both of the 2 Gigantea grafts have buds swelling.

Sorry about the blurry pictures

Gigantea grafts


Wang Bo grafts




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Hi what grafting method did you use? I have some wood I want to try adding to my mature goumi bushes as I didn’t have a new potted plant to work with. They can air root after they’re grafted, right?

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@jxz7245 We use the modified cleft graft and the cleft graft. I think they can be air layered an ground layered it just takes a while

Does anyone know what will be the difference in the resulting plant in grafting on autumn olive or grafting to a seedling of the same type? Autumn Olive is quite a bit larger, so will E. multiflora on autumn olive also result in larger plants?

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I remember reading someone said they grew larger on AO rootstock. But im not sure.

This may have been me. I don’t have any empirical data yet, but it’s something I believe I’ve been observing. Either way, this season I’ll have Daiougoumi fruits from two plants—one growing on its own roots and the other grafted onto AO rootstock. I’m curious to see whether the rootstock has any influence on the quality of the fruit.

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