“Completely self-fertile. Requires a pollinator.”
This doesn’t make sense unless this refers to actual pollinators like bees and not a different pollen source (pollenizer).
It’s a translation error, the German version says complete self infertile
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I asked the owner about this matter. He told me that Chorus isn’t Daiogoumi. It originated as a seedling from korean seeds of unknown cultivar.
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I remain skeptical about this story.
I know for a fact that he obtained plants from a South Korean nursery in the early 2010s. At that time, the cultivar was called Daiougoumi. I received plants originating from this accession through another grower around 2019–2020.
Therefore, I believe that Carya may have taken a strain that had been selected over hundreds of years by indigenous East Asian people, renamed it, and obtained plant variety protection for it. It’s a bit of a Lubera move.
To be fair, they put in the effort to introduce it to the EU, and I do believe they should be able to profit from that. However, obtaining plant variety protection for a cultivar that has existed for hundreds of years simply by renaming it doesn’t sit right with me.
Did you ask Volodomyr about it too @Lech?
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Yes it is a translation mistake, as @Rubus said.
It needs a pollenizer, actually a rather early flowering one.
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My theory is that Daiougoumi is not really a single variety but maybe the name for a subspecies (E. multiflora var. gigantea) and every seedling while technically being a new variety is also a Daiougoumi?
After all it literally translates as giant Goumi?
Couldn’t Chorus really be a seedling of their originally imported Daiougoumi?
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I tried a few times to graft Wang Bo, but no luck. Does anyone want to trade me some Wang Bo and Sunrise Ruby Cuttings? I have Catherine’s find to trade.
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Daiougoumi Seedlings in 2 l pots, 6 months old. The seeds were harvested in 2025, kept moist and stratified at 1 C for 3 months and finally sown in trays on 3rd March 2026. I don’t sell the plants. They are for my breeding work.
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Impressive growth!
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I will have plenty of scions this winter.
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Hi, great collection you have there! Been following for a while since I stumbled upon your YT videos! I was hoping to maybe receive some feedback concerning this variety which was sold as a Multiflora, but seems to me to be a umbellata something else. Lubera sold it as “cheriffic big” but it looks like I might have gotten a wrong plant 
Any ideas?
Thanks:)
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Is that a recent photograph? If yes, it can’t be multiflora, they fruit in June.
However the long fruit stalk is a definitive sign of a multiflora. The fruit size looks kind of small for multiflora though, but large for umbellata. Definitely not the size of cherrific big, which I heard is a renamed Daiougoumi/Chorus
I don’t know how lubera propagates these. Could it be a rootstock of a graft?
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Yes, I took the image a few days back. And I was a little worried as the berries are not only small, but their stems are very close to the branches. Also the leaves look different than my other Multiflora (Cherrific Multi, SC, and Dr. S. Cultivars).
I sent Lubera a request too, asking if there might have been a mix up :S
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Defibitely a umbellata then, it’s much too late for multiflora to fruit
Though the stalks look quite long which is the only thing reminiscent of multiflora about that picture
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I suspect the two species can hybridize which may explain the intermediate traits if seedlings were used as rootstock and then the graft failed.
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You suspect umbellata and multiflora can hybridize?
Yes.
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I sure hope they can’t. My goumis are surrounded by a treeline filled with autumn olive.
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*They’re right next to each other on the phylogenetic tree, and hybrids are already known between other Elaeagnus species less closely related than these two.
*Edit: They’re right next to each other on a tree I saw from a study comparing 10 different Elaeagnus species. On a larger tree I found comparing 36 species, there were some others between them, but they’re still closer to each other than E. glabra is to E. macrophylla and yet those two species had no problem crossing.
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Only positive of a goumi autumn olive hybrid is to get the yellow/orange flavor into a goumi.
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